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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=blue><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#632423'>Right on! <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#632423'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#632423'>Yes some instruction and discussion helps, but in the long run the way to learn is sit in the chair and make some mistakes. When I judge no one gives me any grief when I make a serious judging error and as a contestant I benefit from the mistakes of others as least as frequently as I’m punished. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#632423'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#632423'>Ray Gauthier<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#632423'>Mediocre judge<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#632423'>Mediocre pilot<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#632423'>Happy pattern flyer<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#632423'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> J N Hiller [mailto:jnhiller@earthlink.net] <br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 01, 2011 9:46 AM<br><b>To:</b> AK, ID, MT, OR, WA, WY<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-dist8] Judging Seminar<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle20><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Yah flying days are few and far between this spring, Today looks like #4 for me and unlike you folks still working I'm available every day.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle20><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Judging, don't sweat it. Since I've returned to pattern I haven't seen anyone complain about judging here in the NW. Judging as well as flying pattern is mostly a learn-by-doing activity. We all miss things and probably have second thoughts about calls we've made and are always given another chance.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle20><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle20><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>There is so much detail being written into the rules its kind of overwhelming especially if we aren’t intimately familiar with the schedule being judged. Pattern is about accurate geometry, symmetry within maneuvers and placement. Deviations of lines, angles, radiuses and rolling elements are more easily judged than pitch brakes, tail wags or what ever currently distinguishes a snap roll from a fast aileron roll. To quote hearsay from one of out noted D-8 pilots, "If it looks like a snap roll it’s a snap roll", and it can happen faster than it takes to read the quote.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle20><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle20><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I guess I should quit before I air my true feelings about nit-pickers and retire to the shop for a couple hours of therapy before heading to the field to meet Wayne.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle20><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Jim <o:p></o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span class=EmailStyle20><span style='font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'>-----Original Message-----<br><b>From:</b> nsrca-dist8-bounces@lists.nsrca.org [mailto:nsrca-dist8-bounces@lists.nsrca.org]<b>On Behalf Of </b>astropuppy<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, May 01, 2011 6:01 AM<br><b>To:</b> AK, ID, MT, OR, WA, WY<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-dist8] Judging Seminar</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:black'>I only have a DVD of the video. I'm working on getting it converted to a AVI file.<br><br>In regards to the Boise contest judging etc. I'm all for going with the flow and all, we can do whatever everybody wishes. I just wanted to mention its very early in a season in which the AMA schedules have changed and many of us have not had a whole lot of practice. I think many of us would benefit if the judging lectures included some discussion on how to prevent downgrades. Or, how to fly the maneuvers the correct way.<br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><span style='color:black'>On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Gordon Anderson <<a href="mailto:gaa@owt.com">gaa@owt.com</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Depending on the attendance at the Boise contest we could use this as a teaching contest. For example if Rex and I are the only FAI pilots I am sure Rex would be ok letting judges practice on us and then we could provide feedback after the flights. We could review the new sequences before each class starts as well. I think we should all be prepared for this approach and download and read the competition manual and the sequences on the NSRCA web site. Also download the test for both AMA and FAI.</span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:40.8pt;margin-right:0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>We could also use the Saturday night get together to view the video and take the test together as well as Q&A rules updates etc.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>Mike, did you make a digital copy of the video we can play on a computer?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:#888888'>--Gordon<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>On Apr 26, 2011, at 9:51 PM, Tim wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:76.8pt;margin-right:.5in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>I like the idea of doing this during the Boise meet. Hopefully we will have the correct data to review prior to going to the meet (I just checked NSRCA and they still have the old sequences posted). I may fly sportsman at Boise as well; depends on how much practice I get in prior to Boise (although that has never stopped me from making a fool of myself before). Mike, don't worry about "real" judges and "real" points for me in Sportsman (if I do fly it); I just want to get some competitive flying in. I plan on going to Spokane and practice on Thursday with Scott and then we will head to Boise early Friday and maybe get a few flights in on Friday afternoon. It all hinges on the weather. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>I will not be participating in the 21 May seminar. As much as I would like to learn from Gary, there is no way I can make that trip in between the two May meets. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>On Apr 26, 2011, at 7:45 PM, Gordon Anderson wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>All,</span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:112.8pt;margin-right:1.0in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>Thanks for the input. I know this is not an ideal time and its stuck between two contest weekends and that does make it hard to attend. At this point I am trying to gain input from you all as to who would attend to see if its worth holding the session. Gary is willing and has worked with Ray to secure a location (thanks guys!) so we can pull this off but it does not sound like those of you who have responded would attend, let me know if I am wrong. I will reach out to some of the other pilots via email and see if we can get enough attendance to justify the effort.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>The option that Mike discussed below does make sense. The material you need to study is on the NSRCA web site and if people did the prep work we could have an open discussion at the Boise contest. The thing I like about the sessions is the open discussions and group interaction, this is missing in the online model. I am not sure how big a block of time we could get on Saturday night or where to hold the discussion? any ideas?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>Lets hear your thoughts on this idea...</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>--Gordon</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>On Apr 26, 2011, at 9:46 AM, astropuppy wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'><br><br></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div style='mso-element:para-border-div;border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:148.8pt;margin-right:1.5in'><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><b><span style='color:black'>"Mr. Everything Riggs"</span></b><span style='color:black'> my wife use to say that about me! But that’s a another story.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>Travelling for a non-contest event really stinks no matter how you do it. With that said, my suggestion would be for all us new people to study and be ready to take the test in Boise. Then we could ask current judges questions and be ready to at least judge sportsman.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>If the weather is nice the Saturday of the Boise contest, I fully expect to have upwards of 10 entries in Sportsman. If nobody from outside the club enters, I will just have club members judge, but I really don't want to screw up somebody who has traveled to our contest. I also expect as the rounds progress sportsman participation will drop off. Again, if its only club members I'll let them decide when to call it a contest. Last August we flew three rounds and called it a day. Another idea is to run two classes of sportsman, fun seekers and points seekers. Using real judges for the points seekers and club member judges for the fun seekers. FYI Tim: If the weather doesn't improve for practicing I'm going to be flying Sportsman.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>Seriously how many hours do Judging Seminars take? Having never been to one I'd like to know.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 7:20 AM, Tim <<a href="mailto:tstebbins@gmail.com" target="_blank">tstebbins@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>></span><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>> One other suggestion maybe to have a judges training session Friday and Saturday evenings in Boise. Three of us that will be new judges this year will be at that meet (myself, Scott, and Mr. Everything Riggs).</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>></span><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>> On Apr 26, 2011, at 2:02 AM, J N Hiller wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>></span><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>> Three weekends in a row kind of sucks.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>> Jim</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>> -----Original Message-----</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>> From: <a href="mailto:nsrca-dist8-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-dist8-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-dist8-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-dist8-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]On Behalf Of Gordon Anderson</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 7:46 PM</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>> To: AK, ID, MT, OR, WA, WY</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>> Subject: [NSRCA-dist8] Judging Seminar</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>> All,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>> Please let me know what you think about holding Judging Seminar May the 21st. Gary McClellan contacted me and he is willing to teach the class and he has worked with Ray Gauthier to gain access to a room at Pioneer Pacific College in Wilsonville Oregon. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>> This year we have new AMA sequences and this will be a good opportunity to review all the changes. Please let me know if would be willing to attend before we finalize the details.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>> Thanks!</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>> --Gordon</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;border:none;padding:0in'><span style='color:black'>> _______________________________________________</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal 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