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Thanks Gordo.... <BR><BR>> Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2009 19:37:08 -0800<BR>> From: GAA@owt.com<BR>> To: nsrca-dist8@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-dist8] Poll & a question<BR>> <BR>> I too voted for a paper copy. This issue comes up every year or two and <BR>> its almost as bad as the debate over snaps and spins....<BR>> <BR>> Regarding the graphics question. I don't have anything to do this but I <BR>> came close to buying one of those circut systems that walmart sells. <BR>> They had a Christmas sale that was pretty good but I just could not <BR>> justify it....<BR>> <BR>> --Gordon<BR>> <BR>> Tim wrote:<BR>> > I took the poll and my preference was paper copy. I like going back <BR>> > and looking at old copies and I have trouble reading any kind of <BR>> > multipage document on the computer.<BR>> ><BR>> > I have a group question. Does anyone in D8 have the ability to <BR>> > generate lettering graphics for models ? I try and cut them out <BR>> > from monokote but don't do a very good job. I'm hoping someone has <BR>> > the capability to computer generate lettering (varying fonts, sizes, <BR>> > and colors) that can be placed on adhesive backed material so it can <BR>> > be added as part of the finishing process of the plane.<BR>> ><BR>> ><BR>> > On Jan 28, 2009, at 5:46 PM, Rex wrote:<BR>> ><BR>> >> Hi everyone....<BR>> >> <BR>> >> I'd like to ask, how many of you have taken the poll on the NSRCA <BR>> >> website.... <BR>> >> I'd also like to take a moment to tell you a little about it. Don't <BR>> >> read anything<BR>> >> into what you are hearing on the list. Nothing is being done to the <BR>> >> kfactor at<BR>> >> this time. There is no plan to change the publication to an online <BR>> >> media... The<BR>> >> fact is, we have all the costs of publication and postage for the <BR>> >> kfactor. We are<BR>> >> just trying to find out what the NSRCA members want. It's that <BR>> >> simple... <BR>> >> Until we know what the masses want, we have no idea what is possible <BR>> >> in the <BR>> >> future concerning publishing requirements. The biggest cost of <BR>> >> printing the kfactor,<BR>> >> is setup and starting the initial printing. I don't have the actual <BR>> >> figures to give you,<BR>> >> but I'll give you an example that shows you how the costs work....<BR>> >> Say you have a printing job to be done... the cost is based on setup <BR>> >> and an initial<BR>> >> printing of 100 copies... that's the smallest order the printing <BR>> >> agency will do. The<BR>> >> cost of that printing will cost $200. Now if you want to expand that <BR>> >> printing to 500<BR>> >> copies, the printing agency will go ahead and run off 400 more copies <BR>> >> for an additional<BR>> >> $100. And as you expand the order, it gets cheaper and cheaper per <BR>> >> copy. We have<BR>> >> been on one of the pricing plateaus, and that is why we have excess <BR>> >> copies. The <BR>> >> excess copies are free because of the fixed pricing by numbers. <BR>> >> That's just the way<BR>> >> it is... We are trying to see if, according to the poll, we can get <BR>> >> numbers of members<BR>> >> that fit one of these pricing plateaus, and how much, if any, savings <BR>> >> can be found by<BR>> >> letting a percentage of members go electronic. That's pretty much it <BR>> >> in a nut shell...<BR>> >> That's why it's important that you take the poll, so we can start <BR>> >> figuring out where we<BR>> >> stand. If you haven't heard, publishing is taking a beating in this <BR>> >> country. Magazines are<BR>> >> dieing in droves. Mostly due to advertising, or lack thereof.... We <BR>> >> are trying to see is,<BR>> >> if making an online version of the kfactor will help or hinder <BR>> >> advertising revenue. There<BR>> >> are a few different routes that can be taken as for charging for <BR>> >> advertising in the <BR>> >> electronic kfactor, such as the "by hit" method in which the <BR>> >> advertiser is charged a minor<BR>> >> fee every time a reader links to the advertisers site from the <BR>> >> electronic kfactor. <BR>> >> Nothing has been decided as of yet... we need to see where we stand <BR>> >> after the poll is<BR>> >> tallied and costs are figured several different ways. The intent was <BR>> >> to have both, the<BR>> >> printed copy, and an online copy. I can tell you this... the way <BR>> >> the economy is going,<BR>> >> it will get harder and harder to keep things as they are, without <BR>> >> raising membership fees,<BR>> >> unless we get a good handle on this. We do not have enough <BR>> >> advertising funds to pay<BR>> >> for the kfactor as it is.... and trust me, our ad manager is doing <BR>> >> as much as possible to <BR>> >> get as many advertisers as he can! That has to be the most thankless <BR>> >> job on the planet!<BR>> >> The rest of the funds used to pay for printing and postage comes from <BR>> >> membership dues.<BR>> >> Then we have costs for the NATS, Championship awards, TAXES!... yes, <BR>> >> we pay taxes...<BR>> >> We are working on getting to a tax exempt status, but it's taking <BR>> >> some time. All the ducks<BR>> >> have to be in a row!<BR>> >> Ok, so now you get the idea of what's going on behind the scenes! <BR>> >> When Derek gets all<BR>> >> the figures, he will spell out all of our costs, what we can and <BR>> >> can't do, etc.... Stay <BR>> >> posted!<BR>> >> <BR>> >> Also, if you haven't heard, we will have a booth at the NW Model Expo <BR>> >> in Monroe, Wa. on<BR>> >> the weekend of February 6, 7, and 8... Stop by and say Hi!!!!<BR>> >> <BR>> >> Thanks <BR>> >> <BR>> >> Rex<BR>> >> <BR>> >> <BR>> >> <BR>> >> <BR>> >> <BR>> >> <BR>> >> <BR>> >> <BR>> >> <BR>> >> <BR>> >> <BR>> >> <BR>> >> <BR>> >> <BR>> >> <BR>> >> <BR>> >> <BR>> >> <BR>> >> <BR>> >> <BR>> >><BR>> >> _______________________________________________<BR>> >> NSRCA-dist8 mailing list<BR>> >> NSRCA-dist8@lists.nsrca.org <mailto:NSRCA-dist8@lists.nsrca.org><BR>> >> http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-dist8<BR>> ><BR>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>> ><BR>> > _______________________________________________<BR>> > NSRCA-dist8 mailing list<BR>> > NSRCA-dist8@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> > http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-dist8<BR>> > <BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> NSRCA-dist8 mailing list<BR>> NSRCA-dist8@lists.nsrca.org<BR>> http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-dist8<BR><BR></body>
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