[NSRCA-dist8] Contest Scores

Sun Jun 28 20:34:51 AKDT 2015

Yes, last year I pretty much did pay attention to the score sheets.  This year I am trying to figure them out.  Yes, I have figured out that summary side which tells me where I am losing points (a lot of them) and what maneuvers to work on.

Thanks Gordon (it is humbling).

Karl

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On Jun 28, 2015, at 10:14 PM, trexlesh at msn.com<mailto:trexlesh at msn.com> via NSRCA-dist8 <nsrca-dist8 at lists.nsrca.org<mailto:nsrca-dist8 at lists.nsrca.org>> wrote:

Looking at the raw scores can tell you where you are lacking or winning in comparing pilot scores.  To me, the best thing about Gordon's scoring sheets is the running summary of the average scores and points cost of individual maneuvers.  That will instantly tell me where I need to improve.

Comparing normalized scores between you and the other pilots is a quick way to see if you are gaining or not, but you have to see where in the sequence that is happening.  The only way to do that is to see the other pilot raw scores in each maneuver.

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From: Karl Watts via NSRCA-dist8

Date: Sun, Jun 28, 2015 6:46 PM

To: Gordon Anderson;

Cc: AK, ID, MT, OR, WA, WY;

Subject:Re: [NSRCA-dist8] Contest Scores

Oh, I did not know I could see raw scores.  This helps as I try to compare my flights to others from another contest.

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On Jun 28, 2015, at 6:22 PM, Gordon Anderson <gaa at owt.com<mailto:gaa at owt.com>> wrote:

Karl,

It is kind of hard to do, you can see all the scores on the web site even each pilot's raw scores. I think the best comparison would be the normalized scores but this is not perfect. There has been a lot of debate over normalization. You can at least get a pretty good idea.

You can learn a lot looking at the scores and seeing how consistent the pilots are etc. There is a lot to be said for consistency.

--Gordon

On Jun 28, 2015, at 5:15 PM, Karl Watts <karlwatt at sarmc.org<mailto:karlwatt at sarmc.org>> wrote:

Yes, this makes sense.  So I really cannot compare my scores in Redmond contest to how pilots did in the Boise contest?

Karl

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On Jun 28, 2015, at 6:11 PM, Gordon Anderson <gaa at owt.com<mailto:gaa at owt.com>> wrote:

Ok the web site 2015 contest results are posted. I still have to update the district champ rules as per the new rules and post the current results. I will do this later this week I hope. Please check out the site and make sure I have this correct, let me know if you find any errors.

Karl,

Please reference this link from Redmond: http://www.nsrca.us/contest_results/2015/D8/Redmond/contestResults.XML
It shows the standings and has detail you don't see on your score sheets. So here is how the scoring works:
1.) We generally fly 6 rounds and you take your top 4 rounds and sum them to get your final score.
2.) Your score sheets show your raw scores that have had the Kfactors applies.
3.) Your raw scores are normalized to the highest scoring pilot in each round. The highest scoring pilots gets 1000 points and all the other pilots are normalized to this highest score. So if you received a raw score that was 90% of the highest scoring pilot you would get 900 points.
4.) Your four highest rounds are then summed to get your final score. If you look at the link you will see lines through your rounds that were thrown out.
5.) The highest possible total score is 4000 if you win 4 rounds.

I hope this makes sense??

--Gordon

On Jun 28, 2015, at 4:47 PM, Patrick Harris <harris7148 at gmail.com<mailto:harris7148 at gmail.com>> wrote:

Outstanding...thank you.

On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 4:44 PM, Gordon Anderson <gaa at owt.com<mailto:gaa at owt.com>> wrote:
i will as soon as I finish posted all the web updates, should finish in 10 to 15 mins....

--g

On Jun 28, 2015, at 4:45 PM, Patrick Harris via NSRCA-dist8 <nsrca-dist8 at lists.nsrca.org<mailto:nsrca-dist8 at lists.nsrca.org>> wrote:

Gordon or Rex....you want to explain "Normalization"?

On Sun, Jun 28, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Karl Watts <karlwatt at sarmc.org<mailto:karlwatt at sarmc.org>> wrote:
So what is the connection between the scores I get handed to me after each round and the ones that determine the places?

Karl

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