[NSRCA-dist8] Fun in the Sun, Richland - Hotels

[J N Hiller]

Relax Mike we do this for fun. The top hat turnaround is a significant
compound maneuver. If we think it through it contains 11 precision elements
to be flown in rapid succession, plus a mandatory maneuver separation for a
total of 12 opportunities to gather downgrades. Its definitely a step up but
It gets easier after a couple hundred. First the thumb sequencing becomes
kind of automatic and flying it becomes more comfortable.
About the time you get comfortable you begin to question how well the
airplane is setup or trimmed. Pulling a straight vertical and radiuses
without a roll couple becomes very important in not only reducing pilot work
load but maybe more important is predictable flight behavior.
Pattern flying can be an extremely rewarding and challenging activity that
we need to grow into.



-----Original Message-----
From: nsrca-dist8-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-dist8-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of astropuppy
Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 1:20 PM
To: AK, ID, MT, OR, WA, WY
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-dist8] Fun in the Sun, Richland - Hotels

I didn't say it was a bad place necessarily; I was trying to say it is
cruel to put the two maneuvers I have the most trouble with
consecutively.

I know it's my personal problem.


On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 1:33 PM, J N Hiller <jnhiller at earthlink.net> wrote:
> No that's a good place for the top hat. It offers an opportunity to
> reestablish line depth after loosing it in the double immelmann.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nsrca-dist8-bounces at lists.nsrca.org
> [mailto:nsrca-dist8-bounces at lists.nsrca.org]On Behalf Of astropuppy
> Sent: Monday, September 12, 2011 12:06 PM
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>
> More then likely I'll fly intermediate; regardless of scores, I may
> turn that d at mn top-hat into a pylon turn. I say putting the Top-Hat
> after the double immelman is just plain cruel. Then again, the reason
> why I fly pattern is feel uncomfortable.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 12:50 PM, Tim Stebbins <tstebbins at gmail.com>
wrote:
>>
>> If I keep my fingers out of the prop this year maybe it will run for six
> flights!    And you got more flights than me ( approx 30 for me).    It is
> up to you but to me intermediate is much more fun.   You don't need to
> decide until Saturday morning.
>>
>> On Sep 12, 2011 11:44 AM, "astropuppy" <astropuppy at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I'm just not sure whether to mess with you (Tim) in Intermediate or
> Wayno in
>> > Sportsman. Neither one of you seem to be able to keep your engines
> running
>> > for 6 rounds.... <smile>
>> >
>> > BTW I'm not flying so great either, I have less then 50 flights in on
> the
>> > year! Oh, and yes, I burnt up an electric motor this year; made for an
>> > exciting takeoff.
>> >
>> > I am following Scott's advice and looking at this weekend's contest as
> the
>> > first contest of next season. I want to put 2011 behind me in so many
> ways
>> > it's not even funny.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 12:24 PM, Tim Stebbins <tstebbins at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> >
>> >> I' m the lousiest flyer in d8 so what are you worried about? Enjoy the
>> >> challenge; you know you are going to beat me. As Dr Hiller has so
>> >> eloquently stated, the real challenge is steady improvement. So
> challenge
>> >> yourself and have some fun messing' with my head.
>> >>
>> >> On Sep 12, 2011 8:44 AM, "J N Hiller" <jnhiller at earthlink.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Its not so much about what class you fly as how well you manage the
> flight,
>> >> precision and airspace. The personal challenges are unlimited.****
>> >>
>> >> You can continue to advance your skill beyond the current class needs
> in
>> >> preparation for advancement.****
>> >>
>> >> See you Friday.****
>> >>
>> >> Jim****
>> >>
>> >> ** ******
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
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>> >> I'm booked at the days inn, talked to wayne, he said he would be
> staying
>> >> there too. Now I just ...
>> >>
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