<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>Did you break those down by Gross Yearly Income? lol I'm guessing the contests are attended more by people who earn more. <br><br></div>From those numbers, it's a wash you are saying from both view points. Sean's idea makes 0 difference and will not make any difference on getting more people to attend more contests because people already attend more than that many contests. Matter of fact, twice as many currently. On the other side, it also has no difference on who will win the district Champion because more contests are already attended than 3 by twice as much. The ratio actually goes down by adding the 4th contest. <br><br></div>As I stated before, adding a 4th win needed (per say), negates the need for the 2nd out of district contest needed. They still need 2 in district so it makes 0 difference. Am I missing something there? <br><br>Thanks for doing the great numbers and write up on this Jon!  <br><br></div>C<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 11:01 AM, joncarter60 via NSRCA-dist7 <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nsrca-dist7@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-dist7@lists.nsrca.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><div style="font-size:9px;color:#575757">Sent via the Samsung GALAXY S®4, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone</div></div><br><br><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Jon Carter <<a href="mailto:jon.x.carter@oracle.com" target="_blank">jon.x.carter@oracle.com</a>> </div><div>Date:02/13/2015  10:57 AM  (GMT-08:00) </div><div>To: "Jonathan Carter (<a href="mailto:joncarter60@comcast.net" target="_blank">joncarter60@comcast.net</a>)" <<a href="mailto:joncarter60@comcast.net" target="_blank">joncarter60@comcast.net</a>> </div><div>Cc:  </div><div>Subject: Season Championship Thoughts </div><div><br></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-align:center;text-autospace:none" align="center"><b><span style="font-size:14.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">NSRCA District 7 Season Championship Thoughts<u></u><u></u></span></b></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.75in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">There has been some discussion on the D7 list lately regarding the changes that Sean is implementing this year for the NSRCA season championship award. I think we need to mention what it is that the season championship should represent. In my opinion, it’s more than just picking the best pilot on a given day. It should represent a “season” of competition with all that goes along with that. You know the stuff that makes our sport great. (Flying, BS’ing, Saturday night dinners, helping out other pilots, calling, teasing other pilots, etc. etc.!) Now, given our format for the season champion I think we have a good balance between picking the best season competitor and picking the best pilot. We generally have the top two, three or four pilots all going into the season championship essentially tied on points so it often does come down to who has the “stuff” for that one big contest! Sean’s initial proposal discussed at the AMA Expo was to increase the number of contests that had points counted from 3 to 5. There was much discussion with a slight majority thinking that 5 contests were too many to count. There was more discussion and a number of 4 was proposed. Most people present seemed to think this was a good number. Sean also is allowing 2 “out of district contests” to count towards a D7 pilot’s total. This is aimed to assist some of our D7 pilots who live farther away from most of the D7 contests but are closer to some adjacent district contests. I support both of these modifications.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.75in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.75in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Just for grins, I went and looked at how many contests the pilots in different classes attended last year. This is for all district pilots in all classes. Here is the data.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.75in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><table style="margin-left:.75in;border-collapse:collapse;border:none" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="width:99.9pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="167"><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Class<u></u><u></u></span></b></p></td><td style="width:225.0pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="375"><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Average # of contests attended in 2015 by D7 pilots<u></u><u></u></span></b></p></td></tr><tr><td style="width:99.9pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="167"><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Sportsman<u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td style="width:225.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="375"><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:center;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none" align="center"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">4.8<u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr><td style="width:99.9pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="167"><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Intermediate<u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td style="width:225.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="375"><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:center;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none" align="center"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">6.2<u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr><td style="width:99.9pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="167"><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Advanced<u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td style="width:225.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="375"><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:center;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none" align="center"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">5.1<u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr><td style="width:99.9pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="167"><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Masters<u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td style="width:225.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="375"><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:center;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none" align="center"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">5.2<u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr><td style="width:99.9pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="167"><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">FAI “Silver”<u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td style="width:225.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="375"><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:center;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none" align="center"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">6.8<u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr><td style="width:99.9pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="167"><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">FAI-F3A<u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td style="width:225.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="375"><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:center;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none" align="center"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">3.8<u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr></tbody></table><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.75in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.75in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">I think this shows that FAI pilots need to come out and fly at some more D7 contests!!! Except for them, everyone already attends at least 4 contests a year anyway! I then looked at “how many contests did the pilots who actually attended the season championship go to during the year”<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.75in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><table style="margin-left:.75in;border-collapse:collapse;border:none" border="1" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr><td style="width:99.9pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="167"><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Class<u></u><u></u></span></b></p></td><td style="width:225.0pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-left:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="375"><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Average # of contests attended in 2015 by D7 pilots who attended the season championship<u></u><u></u></span></b></p></td></tr><tr><td style="width:99.9pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="167"><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Sportsman<u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td style="width:225.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="375"><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:center;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none" align="center"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">6.6<u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr><td style="width:99.9pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="167"><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Intermediate<u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td style="width:225.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="375"><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:center;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none" align="center"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">6.8<u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr><td style="width:99.9pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="167"><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Advanced<u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td style="width:225.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="375"><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:center;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none" align="center"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">7.0<u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr><td style="width:99.9pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="167"><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Masters<u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td style="width:225.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="375"><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:center;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none" align="center"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">6.2<u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr><td style="width:99.9pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="167"><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">FAI “Silver”<u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td style="width:225.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="375"><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:center;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none" align="center"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">6.7<u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr><tr><td style="width:99.9pt;border:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-top:none;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="167"><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">FAI-F3A<u></u><u></u></span></p></td><td style="width:225.0pt;border-top:none;border-left:none;border-bottom:solid windowtext 1.0pt;border-right:solid windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0in 5.4pt 0in 5.4pt" valign="top" width="375"><p style="margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;text-align:center;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none" align="center"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">4.0<u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr></tbody></table><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.75in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.75in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Interesting! Again, FAI is the outlier but all of the other classes go to at least 6 contests per year! I didn’t crunch the data for other years but I looked them over and they appear pretty similar to 2015.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.75in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.75in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Now, expense has been mentioned and that certainly is a factor in these difficult economic times. As you can see from the data though people are already going to enough contests! With the addition of allowing two out of D7 contests to assist those pilots who are less centrally located I really do not think this will have a negative economic impact on our pilots. I really think that the relatively slight modification that Sean has made to our season championship scoring system is a positive step towards reinforcing attendance at local contests albeit, mostly symbolic according to the data.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.75in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.75in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Another item that has been mentioned is where to have the District Championship? When I first started flying in the District it moved around quite a bit. I remember one in Las Vegas where it was freezing cold and blowing a gale for the 14 pilots who attended! (We got in one day of flying!) I also was at a championship contest in Prado that had a good turnout but it snowed on Saturday night! (Also a 1 day!) It seems that a central location with, as much as possible, reliable weather in the late October timeframe would be ideal. Arvin has certainly fit that bill very well recently as has Fresno. My personal opinion is that if we want to move it around some that is great! Maybe a little further south some years, maybe a little further north, maybe we even go crazy and have Gary or John arrange something in AZ!!! The point being that it really seems Sean is open to moving it around to places that make sense. When he first published the preliminary season schedule for 2015 in November of 2014 there was a question mark on the location of the district championship. That is the time to approach Sean and your club to formulate plans. As far as I know the only clubs/people that offered to host it were Fresno and Arvin. Since we had done Fresno last year Sean chose Arvin. I think that is a great field with (usually) great weather and an active group of pattern flyers! Sounds good to me!<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.75in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.75in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">In summation I want to thank and congratulate Sean for doing a great job as District VP! He has reached out to pilots and solicited input from all and made reasoned, considerate decisions. Just like we elected him to do! Our district is the envy of many others for our weather, our contests, our fun and our great people! Let’s keep it that way.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.75in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif""><u></u> <u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.75in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Jon Carter<u></u><u></u></span></p><p style="margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:.75in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;line-height:normal;text-autospace:none"><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"">Ex District 7 VP!<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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