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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hey guys – Let’s refocus the
discussion! This thread will only address the FAI class and my proposal on how
to offer the “F” sequence in some contests this year.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Per Tony’s point earlier in the
thread, if I count up the responses that I have received so far, both private
and on the list, I would break them down into three categories.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>1)<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>The proposal is acceptable for the remainder of this year. Let’s
have the FAI pilots as a group, have some discussion later in the year in
attempt to come up with a more viable alternative for next year. 6 respondents
fall into this category.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>2)<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></font></span></span></font><![endif]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>They don’t really like the proposal but if that is the best
we can do for the remainder of this year they will go along with it but they
really hope to bring “F” in next year. 3 respondents fall into this
category.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in;text-indent:-.25in;mso-list:l3 level1 lfo4'><![if !supportLists]><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>3)<font size=1 face="Times New Roman"><span
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size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'>Don’t like the proposal. 0 respondents fall into this
category.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Please bear in mind that this was
originally started by Tony’s post on RCU which Matt and Jim Kimbro
responded to with the idea of giving our local FAI pilots who are going to the
Nats a chance to fly the “F” sequence in front of judges and get
scored (in a “modified” fashion). I think that my proposal does
allow that and provides a possible springboard, if the majority of FAI pilots
desire it, to include “F” in future seasons. I have not heard from
Matt or Jim so I do not know if they like my proposal or not. I am the first to
admit I used some of Matt’s ideas (that he posted on RCU) with some small
changes based on input from several FAI pilots. If Matt and Jim don’t
read this list maybe someone could forward this discussion to them.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Per Don Atwood’s point, the CD runs
the contest per AMA rules. If we decide to move forward with my proposal, I
will e-mail it to all of the CD’s in D7. If they decide to offer the
pilots the “F” option, I have asked that they publish it on the web
and in their contest flyer. That way, nobody gets surprised! If they do not
want to offer “F” for whatever reason, I cannot force them to. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>As I stated in my proposal, I think that
due to several factors, the season already having started is only one, the
District 7 Championships (CD’ed by me) will be competed for as the best 4
out of 6 rounds of the “P” sequence. Now if every FAI pilot in the
district came to me and said “please let us fly “F” at the D7
Championships” I will certainly allow it but I think that you all realize
that is not going to happen!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Per Bob Gillespie’s points in an
earlier e-mail: people who choose this option to fly “F” at a local
contest will have, by using the “P” K-Factors, an ~ 17% scoring “hit”.
The whole point of this is that, at least for this year, this is a voluntary
thing so that an FAI pilot can get some experience flying “F” in
front of judges. You are still going to have 4 rounds of “P” to
count towards every local contest (unless you can fly “F” more than
17% better than anyone else can fly “P”!) If this does have an
effect on the final standings at a local contest, so be it. That is the
possible issue with getting to fly “F” in front of judges at a
local contest. As a CD I acknowledge that my proposal will make for a slight
increase in work for the CD (re-arranging FAI pilots for the last two rounds
and finding “F” judges!) and a more significant addition of
complexity for the judges who get to judge “F” (The scorekeeping is
unchanged as the “F” scores are simply entered as if they were “P”).
While this is certainly not the perfect solution, (We’ll try for that next
year!) I do not think this will have a significant distorting or negative
impact on the FAI class in D7 as a whole.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If anyone has any further questions or
comments please e-mail me. If I do not hear any major negative feedback, I will
send my proposal out to all D7 CD’s on Friday the 19<sup>th</sup> of
March. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Jon Carter<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>NSRCA D7 VP<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
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nsrca-dist7-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-dist7-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of </span></b>atwooddon@aol.com<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, March 15, 2010 2:59
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> nsrca-dist7@lists.nsrca.org<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-dist7] A
proposal for FAI at the local level</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Thanks Steve<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I probably mixed up part of what you were
saying about Masters judging with the FAI proposal. I agree, Masters
should be it's own thread to avoid confusing people (like me).<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Don<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>-----Original
Message-----<br>
From: Steve Hannah <shannah1806@gmail.com><br>
To: CA, AZ, HI, NV, UT <nsrca-dist7@lists.nsrca.org><br>
Cc: CA, AZ, HI, NV, UT <nsrca-dist7@lists.nsrca.org><br>
Sent: Mon, Mar 15, 2010 2:55 pm<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-dist7] A proposal for FAI at the local level<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I shouldn't have mixed the topic of
judging and flying F. They are different and unrelated. But I am not
asking to shorten masters to satisfy FAI. I am asking to do that for the sake
of anyone who sits in the judges chair. I like that a and b idea. That
could really help. Maybe this should be it's own thread. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I still think we should offer F. I'd
rather see it mandatory but that isn't what the proposal offers. So in order to
move onward I'll support whatever proposal we adopt to include it in someway.
In the spirit of consensus, I don't really like the proposal but I can live
with it. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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On Mar 16, 2010, at 3:15 AM, Chris Fitzsimmons <<a
href="mailto:homeremodeling2003@yahoo.com">homeremodeling2003@yahoo.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Steve,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Are you saying to shorten the masters
sequnce if too many guys show up in masters? I don't see how making masters
change to satisfy fai that is shrinking because of difficulty. How fair is
that? Hopefully I perceived your comment incorrect. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Pattern was fun a few years ago. Im not
quite having the same amount of fun lately it seems. With this issue we have
people moving back to masters or saying they will. Where does the issue lay? In
masters or fai? If people want to fly f, it will most likely make sure at all
contests that all fai pilots will get a trophy. Is that what people want? I'd
rather fly against 10+ masters guys than 2 fai. Would the fai pilots rather fly
against 10 guys flying p, or maybe 1 or 2 flying p and f? Cuz I could take a
guess that that is what would happen.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Just my opinion I guess. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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On Mar 15, 2010, at 6:34 AM, Steve Hannah <<a
href="mailto:shannah1806@gmail.com"></a><a href="mailto:shannah1806@gmail.com">shannah1806@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I support your idea to split the class.
I'd rather do two short stints vs one monster long one. Talk about things
that can drive FAI flyers away, that long sequence and marathon judging
sessions is about ready to do it to me. I think the CD should mandate a shortened
sequence any time there are more than 5 fliers. Plus you should split the line
if more than 8 show up. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>As for FAI F: I don't support the
pilots option or CD option. The current proposal is effectively doing nothing
beyond what we have right now. Either we do it or we don't. If I have the
choice to optionally throw away two rounds then I'll probably opt to not do
that and fly P. If I have 4 solid rounds and my choice is to drive home early
or fly F then I might fly F even though it wouldn't have any bearing on the
outcome. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Pilots already fly F on the P score
sheets. I'd hope that we could introduce an F seuence somehow but the voluntary
optional thing doesn't work for me. I can do that now but the results don't
mean anything. So I'll fly P until further notice.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Do it or don't do it. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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On Mar 15, 2010, at 10:20 AM, "Wallace, Bill" <<a
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>My take on this is that we are not going
to dictate to the CD’s hoe to run their contest. John has suggested
that if the FAI flyers want to fly the F sequence, then the CD can run the last
2 rounds as either F or P to be decided by the pilot. If he decides to
fly the F then he will be scored at the P schedule K factors. In my
opinion, this is a fair way to run it, and is how I am going to run the <st1:City
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Hemet</st1:place></st1:City> contest. If
the FAI pilots don’t like this, then they should speak up now or
don’t gripe about it come contest day. Let’s face it, we are
never going to make everyone happy, but this proposal does the best job of it
– again in my never to be humble opinion. Since Jon proposed this,
and I think he will be running the Dist. Championships, then I think we can
assume that this is how they will be run. Again, if you are a FAI pilot
and you don’t like this suggestion, speak up now. Now Jon –
if I am wrong on this let me know. A more pressing problem, IMO, is the
heavily loaded Masters class we have in Dist. 7. At <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Yuma</st1:place></st1:City> – half of the registered pilots
were in Masters (8). If we have a good size contest (ie <st1:City w:st="on">Riverside</st1:City>
or <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Hemet</st1:place></st1:City>) we
could have 12 – 15 Masters pilots. This will create havoc for the
CD and the poor FAI and Advanced pilots who have to sit in the chair for 2
– 2 ½ hours. My thoughts are to split the class if the number gets
over 10 and have the same judges for 2 rounds, but they would only have to
judge ½ the pilots each round. Then we would hold off normalizing until
the end of the 2nd round. I am thinking this would make the judging a
little more tolerable. Looking for comments and or other
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Anthony Frackowiak<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, March 14, 2010 5:17
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> CA, AZ, HI, NV, UT<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-dist7] A
proposal for FAI at the local level<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Somehow this slipped through on my email,
so I'm just responding now.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>With all due respect (whenever I say that
I think of Ricky Bobby!) I don't see why there can't be some sort of approval
by the majority of the F3A fliers. A simple yes/no and posting the results
would suffice. Without that, it looks like just one guys ideas being pressed
forward.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought
the entire idea of this discussion was to come to an agreement amongst all the
F3A pilots on what to do in this district? If you leave it up to the individual
CD's, will the D7 Championships be decided by that CD?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Tony – There is no real
“official” process per se to vote on this proposal. As I said, I
believe that this is a first “doable” step in a process and unless
I hear some strong objections from some FAI pilots my intention is to forward
my proposal to each CD who is running a D7 contest with my recommendation to
implement it if possible for their contest. Please keep in mind that this
decision is ultimately the CD’s of the individual events.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> </span></font></span><font
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color:black'><a href="mailto:nsrca-dist7-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"></a><a
href="mailto:nsrca-dist7-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"></a><a
href="mailto:nsrca-dist7-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"></a><a
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class=apple-converted-space> </span><b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On
Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span></b>Anthony
Frackowiak<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b><span
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b><span
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [NSRCA-dist7] A proposal for FAI
at the local level<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I will have no problem supporting this if
this what the majority of the F3A pilots have agreed upon. Is there a process
to come to a majority agreement?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'>Local
contests and FAI: A modest Proposal.</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>As I have indicated on the D7 list and in
e-mails to most of the D7 FAI pilots I think that we need to come to a
decision/recommendation for the FAI class at local contests as soon as
possible. At this point I have spoken with almost every D7 pilot who flew in an
FAI contest during the 2009 season. I would like to begin by stating some
facts, some assumptions and some goals.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The 2010 contest season started
in<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place
w:st="on">Phoenix</st1:place></st1:City><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>on 11/14/2009 and we are 3
contests into the season.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
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auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Since we have already begun the
season, I do not support adding “F” as a required element at
the D7 Championships for the 2010 season.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
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auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
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both sides of this issue.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
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auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Adding the “F”
schedule at local contests is a significant change to the way we have
“traditionally” flown FAI.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo1'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>It is up to each individual CD
to structure and run his contest in a manner that follows the rules and
satisfies the needs of his club and his pilots.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'>Assumptions:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Most D7 FAI pilots support an
option to assist the pilots who go to the Nats by providing them with a
way to fly judged “F” sequences.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Many D7 FAI pilots think that
flying the “F’ sequence at local contests would be fun,
challenging and a way to more fully align ourselves with what it means to
fly “FAI”<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo2'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>There will be a significant
“learning” curve in judging the “F” sequence.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
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style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'>Goals:</span></font></b><font
size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Arrive at a set of guidelines
for the 2010 season that will give an event CD a framework for running the
FAI class<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><u>this</u><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>year and allow pilots who choose
to, the ability to fly “F” and receive scores.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Provide a path that will allow
us to offer the “F” sequence at local contests and the
District Championships in 2011 and going forward<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><u>if so desired</u>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:
auto;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo3'><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>If we make changes, ensure that
a process of review is completed to determine the positive or negative impact
of the changes after the season<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'>Proposal
for the remainder of this year</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black
face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>Any FAI pilot who wants to may fly two
rounds of F at a local contest, with the CD’s permission. To simplify
things for the CD I think that this should be limited to the last two rounds on
Sunday. If the CD is willing to permit this, it must be mentioned as far in
advance as possible. (On the website and in the contest flyer at the minimum)
If the CD does not want to fly the “F” sequence, or no pilots want
to, FAI will be flown as usual with a best 4 out of 6 “P”
sequences.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>The F schedule scores will simply be
entered into the computer as a P schedule. This will apply the “P”
K-Factors to the “F” sequence. This is obviously a
“handicap” for the pilots who choose to fly the “F” sequence
(~17%). It does though allow them to fly the “F” sequence in front
of judges and receive scores that they can review for areas that need
improvement.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>All other scoring, i.e. count the best 4
out of 6 rounds, will be kept as is.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'>District
Championships</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>The District Championship will be flown
as a Schedule “P” contest only. As I mentioned up above, we are 3
contests into the 2010 season and I do not think that it is proper to make a
change of this magnitude for the District Championships at this time.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black;font-weight:bold'>The
Future</span></font></b><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:black'>I believe that we should observe these
changes and their impact on our local FAI contests for the remainder of this
season. If they appear to be positive and the majority of the FAI flyers like
them we could make another step next year. If the idea has strong local FAI
pilot support, I would support making our local FAI contests a best 3 out of 4
“P” and a best 1 out of 2 “F” for 2011. Please keep in
mind that by trying something different this year we are not committing
ourselves to any changes for next year. If we adopt this proposal we have most
of a year for pilots to see “F” flown locally and for the rest of
us to learn how to judge it! Remember our goal is to compete, improve our
piloting skills and have fun!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=black face=Arial><span style='font-size:
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