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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Tony:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>My take on this is that we are not going to dictate to the CD’s
hoe to run their contest. John has suggested that if the FAI flyers want to
fly the F sequence, then the CD can run the last 2 rounds as either F or P to
be decided by the pilot. If he decides to fly the F then he will be scored at
the P schedule K factors. In my opinion, this is a fair way to run it, and is
how I am going to run the Hemet contest. If the FAI pilots don’t like
this, then they should speak up now or don’t gripe about it come contest
day. Let’s face it, we are never going to make everyone happy, but this
proposal does the best job of it – again in my never to be humble
opinion. Since Jon proposed this, and I think he will be running the Dist.
Championships, then I think we can assume that this is how they will be run.
Again, if you are a FAI pilot and you don’t like this suggestion, speak
up now. Now Jon – if I am wrong on this let me know. A more pressing
problem, IMO, is the heavily loaded Masters class we have in Dist. 7. At Yuma –
half of the registered pilots were in Masters (8). If we have a good size
contest (ie Riverside or Hemet) we could have 12 – 15 Masters pilots.
This will create havoc for the CD and the poor FAI and Advanced pilots who have
to sit in the chair for 2 – 2 ½ hours. My thoughts are to split the
class if the number gets over 10 and have the same judges for 2 rounds, but
they would only have to judge ½ the pilots each round. Then we would hold off normalizing
until the end of the 2nd round. I am thinking this would make the judging a
little more tolerable. Looking for comments and or other suggestions. Thanks.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>
nsrca-dist7-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-dist7-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Anthony
Frackowiak<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, March 14, 2010 5:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> CA, AZ, HI, NV, UT<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-dist7] A proposal for FAI at the local level<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Hi Jon,<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Somehow this slipped through on my email, so I'm just
responding now.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>With all due respect (whenever I say that I think of Ricky
Bobby!) I don't see why there can't be some sort of approval by the majority of
the F3A fliers. A simple yes/no and posting the results would suffice. Without
that, it looks like just one guys ideas being pressed forward.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Correct me if I'm wrong, but I thought the entire idea of
this discussion was to come to an agreement amongst all the F3A pilots on what
to do in this district? If you leave it up to the individual CD's, will the D7
Championships be decided by that CD?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>Tony<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal>On Mar 10, 2010, at 10:18 PM, Jon Carter wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Tony – There is no real “official” process per se
to vote on this proposal. As I said, I believe that this is a first
“doable” step in a process and unless I hear some strong objections
from some FAI pilots my intention is to forward my proposal to each CD who is
running a D7 contest with my recommendation to implement it if possible for
their contest. Please keep in mind that this decision is ultimately the CD’s
of the individual events.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Thanks</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:navy'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>Jon Carter</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";
color:navy'>NSRCA D7 VP</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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color:navy'> </span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";
color:black'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> </span></span><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><a
href="mailto:nsrca-dist7-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-dist7-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>[<a
href="mailto:nsrca-dist7-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-dist7-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Anthony Frackowiak<br>
<b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Wednesday, March 10,
2010 8:08 AM<br>
<b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>CA, AZ, HI, NV, UT<br>
<b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [NSRCA-dist7]
A proposal for FAI at the local level</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Hi,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>I will have no problem supporting
this if this what the majority of the F3A pilots have agreed upon. Is there a
process to come to a majority agreement?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>Tony<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:black'>On Mar 9, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Jon
Carter wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Local
contests and FAI: A modest Proposal.</span></b><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>As
I have indicated on the D7 list and in e-mails to most of the D7 FAI pilots I
think that we need to come to a decision/recommendation for the FAI class at
local contests as soon as possible. At this point I have spoken with almost
every D7 pilot who flew in an FAI contest during the 2009 season. I would like
to begin by stating some facts, some assumptions and some goals.</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Facts:</span></b><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>The 2010 contest season started
in<span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Phoenix<span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>on 11/14/2009 and we are 3
contests into the season.</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Since we have already begun the
season, I do not support adding “F” as a required element at
the D7 Championships for the 2010 season.</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>There are strong opinions on both
sides of this issue.</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Adding the “F”
schedule at local contests is a significant change to the way we have
“traditionally” flown FAI.</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>It is up to each individual CD to
structure and run his contest in a manner that follows the rules and
satisfies the needs of his club and his pilots.</span><o:p></o:p></li>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Assumptions:</span></b><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Most D7 FAI pilots support an
option to assist the pilots who go to the Nats by providing them with a
way to fly judged “F” sequences.</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Many D7 FAI pilots think that
flying the “F’ sequence at local contests would be fun,
challenging and a way to more fully align ourselves with what it means to
fly “FAI”</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l1 level1 lfo2'><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>There will be a significant
“learning” curve in judging the “F” sequence.</span><o:p></o:p></li>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Goals:</span></b><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Arrive at a set of guidelines for
the 2010 season that will give an event CD a framework for running the FAI
class<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><u>this</u><span
class=apple-converted-space> </span>year and allow pilots who choose
to, the ability to fly “F” and receive scores.</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Provide a path that will allow us
to offer the “F” sequence at local contests and the District
Championships in 2011 and going forward<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><u>if
so desired</u>.</span><o:p></o:p></li>
<li class=MsoNormal style='color:black;mso-list:l2 level1 lfo3'><span
style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>If we make changes, ensure that a
process of review is completed to determine the positive or negative impact
of the changes after the season</span><o:p></o:p></li>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Proposal
for the remainder of this year</span></b><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Any
FAI pilot who wants to may fly two rounds of F at a local contest, with the
CD’s permission. To simplify things for the CD I think that this should
be limited to the last two rounds on Sunday. If the CD is willing to permit
this, it must be mentioned as far in advance as possible. (On the website and
in the contest flyer at the minimum) If the CD does not want to fly the
“F” sequence, or no pilots want to, FAI will be flown as usual with
a best 4 out of 6 “P” sequences.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>The
F schedule scores will simply be entered into the computer as a P schedule.
This will apply the “P” K-Factors to the “F” sequence.
This is obviously a “handicap” for the pilots who choose to fly the
“F” sequence (~17%). It does though allow them to fly the
“F” sequence in front of judges and receive scores that they can
review for areas that need improvement.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>All
other scoring, i.e. count the best 4 out of 6 rounds, will be kept as is.</span><span
style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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District Championship will be flown as a Schedule “P” contest only.
As I mentioned up above, we are 3 contests into the 2010 season and I do not
think that it is proper to make a change of this magnitude for the District
Championships at this time.</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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believe that we should observe these changes and their impact on our local FAI
contests for the remainder of this season. If they appear to be positive and
the majority of the FAI flyers like them we could make another step next year.
If the idea has strong local FAI pilot support, I would support making our
local FAI contests a best 3 out of 4 “P” and a best 1 out of 2
“F” for 2011. Please keep in mind that by trying something
different this year we are not committing ourselves to any changes for next
year. If we adopt this proposal we have most of a year for pilots to see
“F” flown locally and for the rest of us to learn how to judge it!
Remember our goal is to compete, improve our piloting skills and have fun!</span><span
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