<html><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Hi,<div><br></div><div>I will have no problem supporting this if this what the majority of the F3A pilots have agreed upon. Is there a process to come to a majority agreement?</div><div><br></div><div>Tony</div><div><br><div><div>On Mar 9, 2010, at 9:14 PM, Jon Carter wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse: separate; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-horizontal-spacing: 0px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-decorations-in-effect: none; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><div lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="City"><o:smarttagtype namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" name="place"><div class="Section1"><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold; ">Local contests and FAI: A modest Proposal.<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; ">As I have indicated on the D7 list and in e-mails to most of the D7 FAI pilots I think that we need to come to a decision/recommendation for the FAI class at local contests as soon as possible. At this point I have spoken with almost every D7 pilot who flew in an FAI contest during the 2009 season. I would like to begin by stating some facts, some assumptions and some goals.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold; ">Facts:<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></div><ul type="disc" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-top: 0in; "><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; ">The 2010 contest season started in<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><st1:place w:st="on"><st1:city w:st="on">Phoenix</st1:city></st1:place><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>on 11/14/2009 and we are 3 contests into the season.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; ">Since we have already begun the season, I do not support adding “F” as a required element at the D7 Championships for the 2010 season.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; ">There are strong opinions on both sides of this issue.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; ">Adding the “F” schedule at local contests is a significant change to the way we have “traditionally” flown FAI.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; ">It is up to each individual CD to structure and run his contest in a manner that follows the rules and satisfies the needs of his club and his pilots.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li></ul><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold; ">Assumptions:<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></div><ul type="disc" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-top: 0in; "><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; ">Most D7 FAI pilots support an option to assist the pilots who go to the Nats by providing them with a way to fly judged “F” sequences.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; ">Many D7 FAI pilots think that flying the “F’ sequence at local contests would be fun, challenging and a way to more fully align ourselves with what it means to fly “FAI”<o:p></o:p></span></font></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; ">There will be a significant “learning” curve in judging the “F” sequence.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li></ul><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold; ">Goals:<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></div><ul type="disc" style="margin-bottom: 0in; margin-top: 0in; "><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; ">Arrive at a set of guidelines for the 2010 season that will give an event CD a framework for running the FAI class<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u>this</u><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>year and allow pilots who choose to, the ability to fly “F” and receive scores.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; ">Provide a path that will allow us to offer the “F” sequence at local contests and the District Championships in 2011 and going forward<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><u>if so desired</u>.<o:p></o:p></span></font></li><li class="MsoNormal" style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; ">If we make changes, ensure that a process of review is completed to determine the positive or negative impact of the changes after the season<o:p></o:p></span></font></li></ul><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold; ">Proposal for the remainder of this year<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; ">Any FAI pilot who wants to may fly two rounds of F at a local contest, with the CD’s permission. To simplify things for the CD I think that this should be limited to the last two rounds on Sunday. If the CD is willing to permit this, it must be mentioned as far in advance as possible. (On the website and in the contest flyer at the minimum) If the CD does not want to fly the “F” sequence, or no pilots want to, FAI will be flown as usual with a best 4 out of 6 “P” sequences.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; ">The F schedule scores will simply be entered into the computer as a P schedule. This will apply the “P” K-Factors to the “F” sequence. This is obviously a “handicap” for the pilots who choose to fly the “F” sequence (~17%). It does though allow them to fly the “F” sequence in front of judges and receive scores that they can review for areas that need improvement.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; ">All other scoring, i.e. count the best 4 out of 6 rounds, will be kept as is.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold; ">District Championships<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; ">The District Championship will be flown as a Schedule “P” contest only. As I mentioned up above, we are 3 contests into the 2010 season and I do not think that it is proper to make a change of this magnitude for the District Championships at this time.<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><b><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; font-weight: bold; ">The Future<o:p></o:p></span></font></b></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; ">I believe that we should observe these changes and their impact on our local FAI contests for the remainder of this season. If they appear to be positive and the majority of the FAI flyers like them we could make another step next year. If the idea has strong local FAI pilot support, I would support making our local FAI contests a best 3 out of 4 “P” and a best 1 out of 2 “F” for 2011. Please keep in mind that by trying something different this year we are not committing ourselves to any changes for next year. If we adopt this proposal we have most of a year for pilots to see “F” flown locally and for the rest of us to learn how to judge it! Remember our goal is to compete, improve our piloting skills and have fun!<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; ">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; ">Jon Carter<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="3" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: Arial; ">NSRCA D7 VP<o:p></o:p></span></font></div><div style="margin-top: 0in; margin-right: 0in; margin-bottom: 0.0001pt; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman'; "><font size="2" face="Arial"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial; "><o:p> </o:p></span></font></div></div>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-dist7 mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-dist7@lists.nsrca.org" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">NSRCA-dist7@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-dist7" style="color: blue; text-decoration: underline; ">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-dist7</a><br></o:smarttagtype></o:smarttagtype></div></span></blockquote></div><br></div></body></html>