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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=406414220-22052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Screw the polar bears. I hear they are pretty tasty with
some BBQ sauce.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=406414220-22052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Or as a good buddy of mine said about the dolphins getting
caught in the Tuna nets....</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=406414220-22052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>"I care about the Dolphins, after all they taste pretty
good with some Mayo on Rye."</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=406414220-22052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Very windy and rain actually here today. See you guys with
your electric models are trying to eco friendly, Yet the Lipo batts are like
nuclear waste to dispose of, and you burn gasoline in your generator to charge
with or you go home and use the power create in AZ by the Coal fired power plant
to charge with. All this work and you still don't make the power I can make with
a little methanol and some light machine oil. (note machine oil used is all
synthetic and did not come from Dinosaurs, Arabs, or Exxon) </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=406414220-22052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=406414220-22052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Also no animals were harmed in the production, typing or
sending of this email. However I would like to extend an offer for anybody
willing to send me some Polar Bear Steaks I will be happy to video my BBQ grill
turning the flesh in to a nice Medium Rare and then me enjoying it with a baked
Potato and some Bush's beans. I will be happy to put a photo of the Polar bear
that gave his all in my scrap book along with a spare rib.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=406414220-22052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=406414220-22052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Speaking of which I think I need to go to the grocery
store, I'm getting a little hungry.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=406414220-22052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Smile Jim....You know I love it when you guys fly electric.
It just gives us guys with the ancient technology that many more
advantages.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=406414220-22052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Enjoy. I'm headed to the shop. <SPAN
class=343000021-22052008>I </SPAN>hope to see you at a contest this year. Its
been a while since we chatted last. I have something new I think you might enjoy
the technical side of.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=406414220-22052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Troy</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> nsrca-dist7-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-dist7-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of </B>James
Oddino<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 22, 2008 1:33 PM<BR><B>To:</B>
troy@troynewman.net; CA, AZ, HI, NV, UT<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-dist7]
Servo replacement / wear - how to tell<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>Troy, I believe your non-flower powered model is in violation of the
polar bear preservation act and you should cease all further flight operations
or be held in contempt of the courts.
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Jim O</DIV>
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<DIV>Yes I have time on my hands. Very windy today.</DIV>
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<DIV>On May 22, 2008, at 11:30 AM, Troy A. Newman wrote:<BR
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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=265040818-22052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I guess Jerry and I said the same thing for the most
part. We both learned from the Master himself about this.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=265040818-22052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I have found that the pots start to show some minor signs
of wear at about 80-100flights on the ailerons. And about 175-200flights on
the elevator and Rudder. This is with the YS engines I usually can't tell
flying the airplane that this wear is there until about 125-150flights on the
ailerons. So I will look at what is going on....Oh the NATS is next week it
doesn't matter if the servos have 60 flights on them...Fresh aileron servos go
in.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=265040818-22052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=265040818-22052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>As for the practice and local contests it depends on
where I'm at in the cycle. If I'm pushing 100 flights and a contest is coming
up...then I put in new ones. If only just starting to show signs of wear a
very slight change in speed no hesitation....then its OK through the contest
and in the next couple weeks at 15-20 flights a week it will get swapped out.
I have this down to about a 15min to 20 min change. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=265040818-22052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=265040818-22052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I'm very demanding of my model but I'm probably less
demanding than Tony is or was. I know Tony is very honest in that you can see
a change in a new servo at about 50-60 flights. Yes you can, but I have not
been able to feel that different in my models until about 125 flights
usually.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=265040818-22052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=265040818-22052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I also find that the 9411SA aileron servos I'm using tend
to be fine on gears for 2-3 pot changes. Again if its the NATS it gets a fresh
servo both gears and pots. I keep very detailed logs on my flights and the
servos. Its almost like a diary. Oh crap today I could NOT hit a
snap to save my butt. Point rolls were not crisp or I was missing points.
Guess what the first place I check...aileron servos for this problem.
</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=265040818-22052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=265040818-22052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>When I flew the Flower powered model I got about double
the life out of the servos...maybe a little more. I would say about 200-250
flights the aileron servos would start to be needing new pots. The gear wear
was much better on the electric due to lower Vibes. </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=265040818-22052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=265040818-22052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>One big thing is how your linkages are setup and if you
are using the max rotation of the servo to get your control throws. If you
have things dialed way down with one to one ratios on the servo arms to
control arms then the wear issues will be magnified. If you have good
mechanical setups and are using the most rotation of the servo as possible
these wear issues are minimized. It doesn't mean they go away just become less
detrimental to your flying and precision of the model.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=265040818-22052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=265040818-22052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>As Jerry Stated measuring you control throws accurately
is very important.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=265040818-22052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=265040818-22052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>I'll take the Jerry line here too Your Mileage may
vary.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
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color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=265040818-22052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=265040818-22052008><FONT face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Troy</FONT></SPAN>
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<B>On Behalf Of </B>Troy A. Newman<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 22, 2008 9:41
AM<BR><B>To:</B> 'CA, AZ, HI, NV, UT'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-dist7]
Servo replacement / wear - how to tell<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN
class=734053115-22052008><STRONG>See answers
below:</STRONG></SPAN></FONT></DIV>
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class=734053115-22052008></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>
<DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=734053115-22052008>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008><FONT face="Berlin Sans FB">There was some
of the typical RC discussion at Hemet - and one topic that came up, as it
usually does, is servo wear and replacement. With today's digital servos, I
have the following questions about digital servo
replacement;</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008><FONT
face="Berlin Sans FB"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008><FONT face="Berlin Sans FB">1) what are
the symptoms of a digital servo that is starting to wear
out?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008> <FONT
face="Berlin Sans FB">- poor centering ? </FONT><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN class=734053115-22052008> <FONT face="Berlin Sans FB"><FONT
size=3> <FONT
color=#0000ff>YES</FONT></FONT></FONT> </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008><FONT face="Berlin Sans FB" color=#0000ff
size=3><SPAN class=734053115-22052008></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008><FONT face="Berlin Sans FB" color=#0000ff
size=3><SPAN class=734053115-22052008></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008>
<FONT face="Berlin Sans FB">- does this equate to a louder 'buzz' at
center</FONT><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=734053115-22052008> <FONT face="Berlin Sans FB" size=3>, <FONT
color=#0000ff>NO Less buzz. The pot is worn and the servo think its at center
so it doesn't try to drive to center.</FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2><SPAN class=734053115-22052008></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008>
<FONT face="Berlin Sans FB">- is the only way to tell this to put a servo on
some sort of protractor and look at the centering?</FONT><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN class=734053115-22052008> <FONT face="Berlin Sans FB"
size=3> <FONT color=#0000ff>NO run the Servo test feature in your TX. If
your radio doesn't have one then get a JR MatchMaker device about $20.
You can plug the servo into it and cycle the servo at various speeds. You will
see hesitations and stopping at center with a worn pot. This is where the
servo spends most of its time and vibes will wear on the pot at this "center
point". A protractor device can help you see it, but if its bad enough to need
replacing you can see it with your naked eye. The servo will stop at center as
it passes through. A new servo will just pass right through at the same speed
with zero hesitation and no speed
change.</FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff
size=2><SPAN class=734053115-22052008></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008>
<FONT face="Berlin Sans FB">- does thee servo draw more current?</FONT><FONT
face=Arial size=2><SPAN class=734053115-22052008> <FONT
face="Berlin Sans FB" size=3> <FONT color=#0000ff>No they draw less
current. The way a servo works is the servo sees its position and it sees
the commanded position to go to. This information is given to the servo by a
feedback pot. A small potentiometer in the servo that is attached to the
output gear. If the servo is already there very little juice is required to
maintain this position. As loads increase on the flight surfaces like sitting
on the ground the weight of the aileron will create a load that is trying to
move the servo off its commanded position. So you get the buzz. The servo is
giving power to drive back tot he commanded location. Digital servos sample
this pot position like 5 times more often than an analog servo. Each time the
position is sampled a small little jolt of power is applied to drive the servo
back to its commanded location. This is why digital servos offer better
holding power and centering. They tell the servo to go to its
commanded position more often, and have less deadband in the middle where
it says that as close as I can get it. If the servo pot is worn
then the servo thinks that a wide area in the worn spot on the pot is
good it then stops trying to drive the servo to the commanded position. It
gets it close and thinks its there. This problem Goes back to the poor
centering.</FONT></FONT><FONT color=#0000ff> <FONT face="Berlin Sans FB"
size=3> So it stops 0.1deg short or goes 0.05degs long. As the pot wear
gets worse the dead spot gets larger and the error gets more. Yet the servo
still thinks its at the commanded location. This is not servo deadband...but
the worn pot can play havoc with the servo and its
deadband.</FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008><FONT
color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008><FONT face="Berlin Sans FB">2) What tests
can be performed either 'in the plane' or 'outside the plane' to determine if
a servo needs to be replaced?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008> <FONT
face="Berlin Sans FB">- In plane testing would be ideal, but we must compare
against a 'new' servo, so maybe this is not practical.</FONT><FONT face=Arial
size=2><SPAN class=734053115-22052008> </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=734053115-22052008></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=734053115-22052008><FONT face="Berlin Sans FB" color=#0000ff size=3>The
servos can be tested inside the plane...A pointer or throw meter device can be
used to see the servo slow or hesitate at center. Using the servo monitor and
the servo test function in your TX the servos will cycle slowly
and you can see the hesitations. The MatchMaker device is a servo tester
and servo driver. It works very well for this function.
</FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=734053115-22052008></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=734053115-22052008></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008><FONT face=Arial size=2><SPAN
class=734053115-22052008><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT face="Berlin Sans FB"
size=3>Tony Frakowiak taught me that when the servos start to fade away the
model will not lock on nearly as well. I didn't believe him until I flew the
model both ways. It can make a huge difference.</FONT> <FONT
face="Berlin Sans FB" size=3> Another thing is that as the pots wear the end
point adjustments will wander. So your models TX setup will change over time.
Aileron differential can suffer and even mixing value will suffer as the
models usually have small percentages of mix. The servos are trying to operate
in the "worn spot" Where I see the biggest problem is on 4/8pt roll elements
they are just not crisp and clean.</FONT></FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008><FONT face="Berlin Sans FB" color=#0000ff
size=3><SPAN class=734053115-22052008></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008><FONT face="Berlin Sans FB" color=#0000ff
size=3><SPAN class=734053115-22052008>yes even the Flower powered models will
suffer from this problem. There is vibration, it may not be as bad as the Glow
powered models but it is still there and the pots and servos will wear. I flew
Electric for a year and still saw servo changes with
time.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008><FONT face="Berlin Sans FB" color=#0000ff
size=3><SPAN class=734053115-22052008></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008><FONT face="Berlin Sans FB" color=#0000ff
size=3><SPAN class=734053115-22052008>Another factor is the gear trains will
wear a little. Metal gears much worse than nylon. As the gear trains wear the
servos will fight to get to commanded location and the gear slop will
constantly over shoot to commanded location. So the servo will get more pot
wear and it can use more current in this situation. The constant overshoot
will have the servo fighting itself. This can also happen with the worn pots.
Turn on the model and one surface just constantly oscillates. You either have
a problem with your linkages or the servo is worn. By the way its common with
poor rudder cable setups to get this problem on rudder servo in just
a few flights. This is usually not the servos fault but operator error
and his cable setup is not good. A poor pull pull setup can literally eat a
rudder servo alive.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008><FONT face="Berlin Sans FB" color=#0000ff
size=3><SPAN class=734053115-22052008></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008><FONT face="Berlin Sans FB" color=#0000ff
size=3><SPAN class=734053115-22052008>This is a reason to use the JR "SA"
servos these servos have nylon gears and perform better in the vibration
situations.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008><FONT face="Berlin Sans FB" color=#0000ff
size=3><SPAN class=734053115-22052008></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008><FONT face="Berlin Sans FB" color=#0000ff
size=3><SPAN class=734053115-22052008>Horizon Hobby can replace the gears and
pots for you. Its usually a fee of under $20 depending on which servo it is.
When you consider a $100 servo the fee to make it like new again is small.
</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008><FONT face="Berlin Sans FB" color=#0000ff
size=3><SPAN class=734053115-22052008></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008><FONT face="Berlin Sans FB" color=#0000ff
size=3><SPAN class=734053115-22052008>Troy Newman</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008><FONT face="Berlin Sans FB" color=#0000ff
size=3><SPAN class=734053115-22052008>Team
JR</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV></SPAN></FONT></DIV><BR>
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<B>On Behalf Of </B>Scott<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 22, 2008 8:05
AM<BR><B>To:</B> <A
href="mailto:dist7@nsrca.org">dist7@nsrca.org</A><BR><B>Subject:</B>
[NSRCA-dist7] Servo replacement / wear - how to tell<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008><FONT face="Berlin Sans FB">
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008><FONT face="Berlin Sans FB">There was some
of the typical RC discussion at Hemet - and one topic that came up, as it
usually does, is servo wear and replacement. With today's digital servos, I
have the following questions about digital servo
replacement;</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008><FONT
face="Berlin Sans FB"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008><FONT face="Berlin Sans FB">1) what are
the symptoms of a digital servo that is starting to wear
out?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008> <FONT
face="Berlin Sans FB">- poor centering ? </FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008>
<FONT face="Berlin Sans FB">- does this equate to a louder 'buzz' at
center</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008>
<FONT face="Berlin Sans FB">- is the only way to tell this to put a servo on
some sort of protractor and look at the centering?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008>
<FONT face="Berlin Sans FB">- does thee servo draw more
current?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008><FONT face="Berlin Sans FB">2) What tests
can be performed either 'in the plane' or 'outside the plane' to determine if
a servo needs to be replaced?</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008> <FONT
face="Berlin Sans FB">- In plane testing would be ideal, but we must compare
against a 'new' servo, so maybe this is not practical.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008><FONT
face="Berlin Sans FB"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008><FONT face="Berlin Sans FB">Any thoughts
on the above would be considered.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008><FONT
face="Berlin Sans FB"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008><FONT
face="Berlin Sans FB">Thanks</FONT></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008><FONT
face="Berlin Sans FB"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>
<DIV><SPAN class=611385614-22052008><FONT
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