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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=765591700-02052008>In the spirit of a
reverse split S (which this is) the requirement is that the looping portion is
immediate after the rolling portion is completed - so as soon as the
plane reaches level inverted flight the push needs to
begin.</SPAN></DIV><BR>
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<FONT face=Tahoma><B>From:</B> nsrca-dist7-bounces@lists.nsrca.org
[mailto:nsrca-dist7-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <B>On Behalf Of
</B>Scott<BR><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, May 01, 2008 12:37 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'CA, AZ,
HI, NV, UT'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-dist7] Clarification on FAI maneuver
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<DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><SPAN
class=751352819-01052008>Don: </SPAN><FONT id=role_document face=Arial>I agree
with your approach with the inverted portion of the 2 of 4 being equal to the
knife edge. If the inverted section was not equal, then it is not really a
2 of 4. </DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=751352819-01052008> sc - Several I have spoken with think
there is NO inverted flight, you do the KE then push immediately. It's kind of
like where the center of a 4 point is, by definition, it's the inverted portion
of the maneuver, but in reality, it's not, it's at the transition of inverted to
KE - When I spoke to the judging committee, they told me it's N-1 for the center
- so a 4 point is defined as 4-1=3 and the 3rd point is the end of KE, so the
center is at inverted flight if you define it this way. This is also defined by
a 'roll' - we all agree the center of a roll is inverted flight, and per the
judging committee, a 4-point ROLL is a roll, and the center can't be different
because it's a roll. If we use this as the criteria, 2 of 4, is a 2 point roll,
2-1 = 1 so the center is the middle of point 1, which is KE, so there is no
inverted flight after the KE, it's KE then push. I just want to know what others
think. It's silly to lose points if we don't all agree on how it should be
done.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV>My understanding is that the geometrically, the maneuver is a square with
half loops on either end.</DIV>
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<DIV>Since I don't judge FAI, let's hear from those that do. What are you
looking for and why?<SPAN class=751352819-01052008> </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=751352819-01052008>sc- I just want to know how to fly this per
those the Judge this. I don't care which way we define it, but I do not want
to have points deducted because the Judge wants to see and equal line
segment when inverted, and another judge does not want to see any inverted
flight.</SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV><SPAN class=751352819-01052008>sc </SPAN></DIV>
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<DIV>Don</DIV>
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<DIV>In a message dated 5/1/2008 9:55:18 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
scottcov@comcast.net writes:</DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma>Hey all you judges out there - and those that
know.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma>I just want to verify that on the double M, the first
FAI maneuver, after the 2 of 4, there is NO LINE PRESENT when inverted (this
is the 2nd point of the 2 of 4) - so basically you fly knife edge, roll to
inverted and push immediately. Is this correct? Is this how it will be judged?
Also, it's to be presented as a square with rounded ends -
correct?</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma>Personally, I like to fly it with the same length knife
edge and the same length inverted, basically showing the 2 of 4, then push to
the 1/2 outside loop - but I do not think this is how it's described or being
judged - so I'd just like to know what the judges are looking
for.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT face=Tahoma>Thanks</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT
face=Tahoma>Scott</FONT></DIV><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>NSRCA-dist7
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