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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Anthony,<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>It might be hard to see the screen in direct sunlight. Most TVs
are made to be used under indoor lighting conditions.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>John Pavlick<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Cell: 203-417-4971<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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color:#1F497D'><img width=90 height=39 id="Picture_x0020_1"
src="cid:image001.png@01D115A0.240E1B70" alt=idslogo2><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Impact","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Integrated Development Services</span><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> NSRCA-dist1
[mailto:nsrca-dist1-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Anthony Romano
via NSRCA-dist1<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 02, 2015 6:39 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> district one<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-dist1] PatternScoring System<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Now that is
kind of intriguing! Instead of hassling with a printer and ink cartridges set
up a scoreboard.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>What would
people think of just having a scoreboard and no printer?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> A
quick web search yields a 32" flat screen at WallyWorld for $129 dollars
along with a Raspberry Pi for $40 could simplify our output and provide dynamic
results for under $200!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Anthony<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Date:
Fri, 30 Oct 2015 15:44:17 -0400<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-dist1] PatternScoring System<br>
From: vze23c3q@gmail.com<br>
To: anthonyr105@hotmail.com; nsrca-dist1@lists.nsrca.org<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The actual
computer is less of an issue than how much malware and other applications have
been installed. Any "clean" Win7 or later will suffice. A
Surface Pro may be a way to go.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Note that
E-Scribe still uses the MasterScore app. One solution to the printer
would be using a large monitor along with PatternScoring.com (like we had a
Canandaigua) This would require WiFi (phone hotspot?) and a second computer at
the field. If you recall, Peter had a Raspberry Pi (something like $40)
running Chrome for the scoreboard. I think a quality printer is still
required for the complete package however.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>On Fri, Oct
30, 2015 at 3:23 PM, Anthony Romano via NSRCA-dist1 <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-dist1@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-dist1@lists.nsrca.org</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Thank you
again Dana for making the extra effort! Anyone else to join the D1 Scoring
Team?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Scott, what
is the minimal system that would run Master Score? Also, how old of a system
will run Master Score effectively. Just trying to get a sense if we could
collect some of people unused not so current laptops for scoring purposes as
opposed to buying equipment.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Another
issue is output. Trying to keep a printer running outdoors can be quite a
challenge but is key to generating scores. I wound up writing them on poster
board but we need to have scores available after each round. Anyone have ideas
on how we can streamline this equipment need?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Anthony<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Subject:
Re: [NSRCA-dist1] PatternScoring System<br>
From: <a href="mailto:danamaenia@me.com" target="_blank">danamaenia@me.com</a><br>
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2015 07:14:15 -0400<br>
CC: <a href="mailto:anthonyr105@hotmail.com" target="_blank">anthonyr105@hotmail.com</a><br>
To: <a href="mailto:davel322@comcast.net" target="_blank">davel322@comcast.net</a>;
<a href="mailto:nsrca-dist1@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-dist1@lists.nsrca.org</a><o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Agree with
Dave’s observations about manpower, our recent contests and the problems to
solve except for the funding part. Our contests have been friendly &
small; what proceeds there are need to go to the clubs that have closed their
airfields for the day or weekend so we can have our contests. Perhaps if
we had large turnouts like they have in D7, fund raising might be feasible but
that is just not realistic for D1. We are having fun at our small turnout
contests so I don’t see that as the most rational problem to try to solve,
given the recent history of D1 in the 5 years that I have been competing. <o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Agree also
with Anthony on solutions. This year is a off year for both Sequence
Committee and Contest Board, so I can volunteer for scoring team work in D1 if
others will also support Anthony's idea. We would need Scott Smith’s help
to make this completely successful, IMO. If Scott would contact me off
thread, I can share some observations and ask for some specifics on how to
solve. We would not need a lot of volunteers to make this idea work for
D1, but one or two more who either have reliable laptops running MS smoothly,
know how to correctly install and operate MS, or would be willing to work
during the off-season so we are ready to go with updated, primary and back-up
computers (and printers) known to operate for our 2016 contests. We can
think through staffing for scoring ideas once the laptop solution is in sight.
Will be much easier than a conversion to the Vogel system for 2016 IMO.
Dana<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>On Oct 28,
2015, at 11:49 PM, Dave Lockhart via NSRCA-dist1 <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-dist1@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-dist1@lists.nsrca.org</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>D1 has never done much in the way of raising funds for the
District.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>IF we start raising funds for the District….what is the best way
to spend it?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Some (somewhat) random thoughts -</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Manpower is much more of a problem at contests now than in the
past. More contests are being run by fewer people, and at smaller
contests, running a single flightline is the only option. If the contest
were more efficient to run….that would help….the Vogel system is efficient
(when working properly with a trained person to set it up and watch over it).</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Many of the problems I see at contests are due to inadequate
planning / prep. This is not a knock on the CDs or organizers….it is a
reflection of ONE guy putting together the event and not having time to do a
dry run, or operation check on all the equipment prior to the contest….so
problems end up being found and addressed on the day of the contest. A
Vogel system will not help much here….and may be more difficult since it
requires a greater level of knowledge/skill to get it right.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>I think the Vogel scoring system may (in time) increase the
range of scores used, and reduce impression judging….the effect may not be as
pronounced as predicted. Is $2500 best spent on a Vogel system or on
encouraging people to attend judging seminars, clinics, sponsoring pattern
primers, etc? Or on a “contest” laptop to be passed along contest to
contest….and setup by a savvy scorekeeper at the beginning of each season?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>If we want $$$ for D1 (for whatever use)…we can “skim” a little
from each contest entry fee. We can run 50/50 raffles at every
event. We can sell D1 hats, Tshirts, etc. And we can do a lot of
these things at WRAM show and look for opportunities to do so at other events.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Regards,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><br>
Dave</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> NSRCA-dist1 [<a
href="mailto:nsrca-dist1-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">mailto:nsrca-dist1-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Anthony Romano via NSRCA-dist1<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 28, 2015 4:50 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> district one <<a href="mailto:nsrca-dist1@lists.nsrca.org"
target="_blank">nsrca-dist1@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-dist1] PatternScoring System</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Thanks
Dana. You beat me to the punch on a lot of this. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>My takeaway
is that we still have some CDs struggling with scoring and Master Score setup
resulting in the last minute spreadsheet and subsequent hair pulling. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>The idea of
a few designated D1 laptops/printers and individuals to assist in scoring set
up would be the first step before adding complexity. Now who would volunteer to
part of a scoring team to manage this?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Anthony</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Date: Wed,
28 Oct 2015 15:52:27 -0400<br>
To: <a href="mailto:vze23c3q@gmail.com" target="_blank"><span
style='color:purple'>vze23c3q@gmail.com</span></a>; <a
href="mailto:nsrca-dist1@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span
style='color:purple'>nsrca-dist1@lists.nsrca.org</span></a><br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-dist1] PatternScoring System<br>
From: <a href="mailto:nsrca-dist1@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span
style='color:purple'>nsrca-dist1@lists.nsrca.org</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Good
conversation! I agree with John that there is a consistency issue to
solve. The problem I’ve observed is around legacy laptops not always
reliability running Master Scoring. Perhaps Scott can consult with us and
we can see what can be done on a local level before contest season
begins? Maybe we need a tech session at WRAM where CDs or score keepers
can bring in their laptops for a tune-up (or assessment if the equipment is not
up to the job)?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>No doubt
there are many advantages to Peter Vogel’s system if it can be digested by
those who choose to use it, but it remains to be seen if it changes judging
behavior or outcomes. Perhaps not as much as D7 would like us to
believe? I have not used it yet myself, but I go with Ed on the point
about noting deductions as I see them. The tech problem I see in D1 would
not necessarily be solved if we just have new problems that come with the new
gear. Sometimes less is more, especially when the main activity is
competitively flying model aircraft, can be complex enough at (the wrong)
times!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>To Joe’s
point about better judging, D1 made a huge step forward this year in having a
well attended Judging Clinic. We should continue this so that all can
improve our skills and assist the newcomers and growing Sportsman class
maintain interest and gain competency. Will be critical as they challenge
Intermediate. We might even think of holding a second one in NJ or PA if one of
the clubs that is not hosting a contest is interested in education as a more
managable alternative. (Mike, interested?) Will help D1 get more
people out to contests, or at least come back again in 2016, if they feel in
the know.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>To Mike’s
question, the investment is one of time rather than money (D1 has none I
think), and adding even one new contest to the calendar is a major committment
for a flying club. We actually have enough contests so my interest would
be improving the quality of each that we have and increasing attendance, rather
than holding more of them. There is never enough stick time, practice,
practice, LOL!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>We have a
terrific DVP in Anthony who had done a great job for D1 in 2015. We need
to return the favor and all get a little more involved doing things in D1 as he
has a new job and perhaps much less time to practice and contribute. We
all have great ideas, if we can put some of those to work on a proactive basis,
D1 should continue to thrive in ’16! As for raising $2,500 for the new
system, perhaps we could just start with tending to the local laptops first so
next season runs a little smoother for the CD’s and their non-combatant scoring
volunteers (or wives). Will make the contests more engaging for the
newcomers too if results are not so painful to eek out or wait on. That
and judging clinic(s) will help us keep up the momentum. Other ideas?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>On Oct 28,
2015, at 2:24 PM, Scott Smith via NSRCA-dist1 <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-dist1@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span
style='color:purple'>nsrca-dist1@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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distribution of 4 contests using the E-Scribe and 4 using paper. Slightly
higher scores overall with E-Scribe, but no difference below 6...I have to
admit, that isn't quite what I expected!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>On Wed, Oct
28, 2015 at 11:26 AM, Michael DiGennaro via NSRCA-dist1 <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-dist1@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span
style='color:purple'>nsrca-dist1@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Folks, <br>
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I may be a newbie to Pattern but I have vast experience in complex
instant scoring systems. In this case there is only a "cool factor"
and in my opinion no measurable affect on the outcome or attendance of a contest. <br>
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If D1 is to invest hard cash into something perhaps some more actual
events/contests would be nice. Would our D1 folks benefit more from slick
scoring or more flying? </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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28, 2015 at 11:02 AM, JOE LACHOWSKI via NSRCA-dist1 <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-dist1@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span
style='color:purple'>nsrca-dist1@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Actually, there needs to be more focus on getting people to the contests. <br>
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On Oct 28, 2015, at 10:52 AM, JOE LACHOWSKI via NSRCA-dist1 <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-dist1@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span
style='color:purple'>nsrca-dist1@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>I never
look at scores. It only makes me angry. Only interested in results relative to
my fellow competitors. LOL. Focusing on having better qualified and a bigger
pool of judges than an automated scoring program is more important. I prefer
writing on paper no matter what and will never use an automated system when I
judge.<br>
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Joe Lachowski</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>I think,
more than anything, Peter's system provides for better judging. Points
are deducted as defects are seen; no more impression judging. If no
defects are seen, it's a 10. If numerous defects are flown, a 1 or 0 is
easily possible. Where as how many actually write a 1? It also
allows for the judge to never have take their eyes off the airplane to record a
score. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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logistics of moving scores and eliminating transcription errors is just
gravy. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>On Wed, Oct
28, 2015 at 9:33 AM, John Ford via NSRCA-dist1 <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-dist1@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span
style='color:purple'>nsrca-dist1@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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that we need to remember what the core problem is…</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>The core
problem isn't the choice of scoring system, hi-tech, lo-tech, or anything
else. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>The NSRCA's
mission is to provide Contests and Contest Experiences to its members. That
means that the local contest is king of everything we do and has the greatest
influence on how our sport evolves and lives. (Sorry, but the NATS are a
statistically trivial part of all NSRCA activity) </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>From the
perspective of a new Sportsman, THE SINGLE BIGGEST DEAL in his/her mind is
seeing their score after the first round of their first contest…that's
it. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>In the
Districts (I've seen several, not only D1), we have volunteers/CD's who run the
current "manual" software very very well, without a hitch, and
posting rounds a few minutes after the last pilot lands. Within the same
districts, there are contests where scores are simply not available at all
until Sunday afternoon. We even see contests where an "on-the-spot"
excel spreadsheet gets created on Saturday morning because of an unresolvable
glitch in the software. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>So we have
a consistency issue to solve, not necessarily a major technology obstacle to
overcome. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Probably
relatively easy to solve the former, and much more demanding on someone's time
to solve the latter via Peter's system.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>On Oct 28,
2015, at 9:06 AM, Dana Beaton via NSRCA-dist1 <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-dist1@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span
style='color:purple'>nsrca-dist1@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>It’s a
system Matt, and someone needs to set-up WiFi at each contest so that the
scores are passed to the computer as the judges record them. Would
require a non-trivial level of knowledge, training and commitment to implement
and maintain in any District; that said, not insurmountable if that’s what any
District wants to do and has volunteers who will see it through. What is
perhaps as interesting is that how our members wish to score rounds at a
contest? There is a certain simplicity in the way we do it now, with
pencil and paper, that is perhaps not something that all would like to discard for
recording downgrades. We could say that if it isn’t broke, don’t fix it;
but to be honest that is not entirely the case, that what we do now is not
broke; but Vogel’s solution is only one possible way to address what sometimes
does not work well at our D1 contests. What do others think?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>On Oct 28,
2015, at 8:06 AM, <a href="mailto:rcmaster199@aol.com" target="_blank"><span
style='color:purple'>rcmaster199@aol.com</span></a> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>I want to
qualify my comments. I only have a passing interest in Peter's scoring system,
so take what I'm about to say with a grain of salt. Bottom line, "I
think" that it scores each maneuver directly into a database and produces
immediate results after each pilot has flown. That's really cool! If I
understand it right.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>I think
that for D1 it's likely a mater of logistics. How many contests are there and
what is the real workload the system likely to alleviate? Having the instant
response is a nice to have but is it absolutely necessary? Are the
required people who have been doing the job no longer available? Or is it one
big hassle every Saturday morning and that's the real benefit? But someone
still needs to manage something with this software, don't they?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Money:
Chances are that you the pilots will need to put up the money. You may ask
the NSRCA board for assistance and might get 200$. And what about new pilots
coming into pattern (in D1)? When do they participate with their wallets?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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enough technology to help a contest or do you have to have the full blown
system?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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Message-----<br>
From: Dana Beaton via NSRCA-dist1 <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-dist1@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span
style='color:purple'>nsrca-dist1@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>><br>
To: Anthony Romano <<a href="mailto:anthonyr105@hotmail.com" target="_blank"><span
style='color:purple'>anthonyr105@hotmail.com</span></a>>; CT, DE, ME, MD,
MA, NH, NJ, NY, PA, RI, VT, ME, MD, MA, NH, NJ, NY, PA, RI, VT <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-dist1@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span
style='color:purple'>nsrca-dist1@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>><br>
Sent: Wed, Oct 28, 2015 6:27 am<br>
Subject: Re: [NSRCA-dist1] PatternScoring System</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'>Aside
from the obvious question of where would the $2,500 investment come from, I
wish I could say that contest scoring has NOT been an issue in D1, and that we
really don’t need a some solution. With all due respect to our clubs,
CDs, their assistants and volunteers who have been doing their very best with
what they have to work with; we have had challenges in recent contests with
legacy laptop computers and that remains an issue, albeit a local one for
contests in 2016. Now I would not go so far as to say that Vogel's
solution is the right fit for D1; but it’s availability does beg the question
if we can do better as a District; and raise the question if there is an
alternative to continuing with the various local laptops? Perhaps D1
acquiring/updating a laptop or two to support contests at the District level as
an intermediate step? If we cannot supply/support a D1 laptop or two, and
manage the logistics of who has it, where & when, then we are not likely to
pull off a full conversion to Vogel’s system. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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observation is that we have enough capable volunteers at each contest to enter
scores, many of whom are now familiar with Master Scoring software; but we have
had an uneven experience with the the laptops themselves in recent years.
What do others think and is this an issue we want to address as D1 (or just let
it stay local knowing that contests may not go as smoothly as they could if we
had some robust D1 hardware backing our local efforts)? Perhaps if we can
manage the logistics of shepherding two D1 scoring computers around in 2016, we
might upgrade to Vogel’s system in the future once additional members have been
exposed to it enough to decide if they want to use it at their local contests
(most D1 members do not travel to the Nats)?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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read the below message from Peter Vogel about the electronic scoring system he
brought to the Canandaigua contest this year. Should D1 invest in one of these
systems? Anyone willing to manage this?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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2 very successful trouble-free runs at the SAM contest 2 weeks ago and the
Cajun NATS last week. Last Monday I finally decided it was time to submit
the app formally to the app store rather than relying on development loads to
individual iPod touches or TestFlight 30-day conk beta loads for my friends in
Australia who have been experimenting with the app. As more districts reach
out to me with orders for fully configured setups I wanted to make sure I had a
path to get software updates out to devices in a timely manner. </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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I'm pleased to announce that as of today the PatternScoring app for iOS is live
on the App Store as a free app!</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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you've never used the scribe app before, feel free to download and, with a good
internet connection, use the "demo contest" mode to play with
it. Naturally the intent is to use it with a game controller, but the
buttons on the screen with the picture of the game controller do work to give
you a flavor for how things work.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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you are using it on iOS 8, you will notice that the voice is a little bit
fast. That's because iOS 9 changed the pace of the voice synthesizer and
I submitted the version to work best with the latest iOS (9). </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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also completed a complete Bill of Materials for the contest scoring system,
including two handy rolling cases with custom-cut foam for everything needed
(except the laptop) to run a contest, I sell these at my cost of $2500, fully
configured to run a contest out of the box (i.e.: I'm not trying to make money
on this). D8 just bought one, and D7 has bought two. If any other
districts have an interest in getting one or more sets, please contact me
directly and we can make appropriate arrangements. Please make sure you
have one or more people in the district who are willing and able to take on the
running of scoring at a contest using the system. I'm making continuous
refinements to the system to make it easier for anyone to run scoring, but it
does require a certain level of comfort and familiarity with technology in
general.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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