<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=windows-1252"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">I was going to say the same as Ken. Did the three rolls in Intermediate years ago. <div>Having said that, in those days, most of us would set up a "full stick" aileron rate for the roll and just inject timed up and down elevator inputs to keep the line. If your timing was good, it looked perfect…if it wasn't…it could get ugly.<div>It didn't teach us how to roll properly, but it did introduce the concept that you needed more than just aileron to roll.</div><div><br></div><div>John</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><div>On Apr 27, 2015, at 5:43 PM, KVelez via NSRCA-dist1 <<a href="mailto:nsrca-dist1@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-dist1@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>We were doing 3 rolls in intermediate a few years back when I was in it, 98'. Was my second season in pattern. I don't see an issue to use in Advanced. I agree with Ron as to the time limit. Min 4 seconds is the same as 4 to 6.</div><div><br></div><div>Ken </div><div><br></div><div><i><font style="color:#333333">Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID</font></i></div></div><br><br>Dana Beaton via NSRCA-dist1 <<a href="mailto:nsrca-dist1@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-dist1@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br><br>Good question. The primary discussion is wether it is too difficult for Advanced at all; and if it will be well received by the NSRCA membership at large. Concerning timing of the rolls, one comment was that "it would be very easy to put in the 3 rolls description a minimum time of 4 seconds. Old description was from 4 to 6 seconds. 4 seconds may be a bit long depending on speed and box distance.” Another discussion is that the Advanced contestant’s rolling skills are already well tested in the mandatory 4/4, slow roll, and snap roll; all of which are introduced in the Advanced class. So do we need/want 3 horizontal rolls too? Thanks for asking. <br><br>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 4:05 PM, Ed Alt <<a href="mailto:ed_alt@hotmail.com">ed_alt@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>> <br>> Assuming 3 seconds per roll, that's going to use a lot of box. Or does 3 seconds per roll not apply?<br>> <br>> <br>> <br>>> On Apr 27, 2015, at 4:02 PM, Dana Beaton via NSRCA-dist1 <<a href="mailto:nsrca-dist1@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-dist1@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br>>> <br>>> Dear NSRCA D1 member pilots, do you think 3 Horizontal Rolls is a good maneuver to include in the 2016-17 Advanced proposal? The Sequence Committee is having a good discussion about this maneuver and I would like to know what our members think before the proposals are submitted.<br>>> <br>>> Thanks in advance,<br>>> Dana Beaton<br>>> _______________________________________________<br>>> NSRCA-dist1 mailing list<br>>> <a href="mailto:NSRCA-dist1@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-dist1@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>>> <a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-dist1">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-dist1</a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-dist1 mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-dist1@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-dist1@lists.nsrca.org</a><br>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-dist1<br>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-dist1 mailing list<br>NSRCA-dist1@lists.nsrca.org<br>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-dist1<br></blockquote></div><br></div></div></body></html>