<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Exactly. <br><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPad</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Apr 5, 2023, at 10:39 AM, Andrew Jesky via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">I think the most frustrating part of this process is it shows it’s not about the culmination of the group deciding what’s best for the F3A community. It is about a select few who already have their minds made up about what direction they want it to go.<div><br></div><div>Andrew <br><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Apr 5, 2023, at 12:28 PM, Derek Koopowitz via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">Ha! I’m no longer involved. <br><br><div dir="ltr">Sent from my iPhone</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Apr 5, 2023, at 10:25 AM, Scott McHarg <scmcharg@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:#0000ff">Derek for Chairman!</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:#0000ff"><br></div><div><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_signature" data-smartmail="gmail_signature"><div dir="ltr"><div><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><b style="color:rgb(51,51,255)"><font style="font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif" size="4">Scott A. McHarg</font></b></div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr"><div>Takeoff is optional. Landing is mandatory!</div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 5, 2023 at 12:10 PM Derek Koopowitz via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr">All because of the chairman... he needs to be replaced but no one will challenge him.</div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Apr 5, 2023 at 9:35 AM flyintexanmark via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Mark, </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Thank you for all your efforts. Crazy to think any part of precision Aerobatics would include ambiguous geometry judging criteria. What a shame. </div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto">Best regards, </div><div dir="auto">Mark Hunt</div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div id="m_-8451732259966504110m_-3460122101496121317composer_signature" dir="auto"><div style="font-size:12px;color:rgb(87,87,87)" dir="auto">Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S22 Ultra 5G, an AT&T 5G smartphone</div></div><div dir="auto"><br></div><div><br></div><div align="left" dir="auto" style="font-size:100%;color:rgb(0,0,0)"><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Mark Atwood via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> </div><div>Date: 4/5/23 11:59 AM (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: FAI Discussion <<a href="mailto:f3a-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">f3a-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> </div><div>Cc: <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a> </div><div>Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] New FAI Rule Changes </div><div><br></div></div>Hey All,<br><br>Attached are the results from the CIAM plenary meeting and vote that took place on April 1st. These rule changes will go into effect in 2024. Most of the rules that address F3A are minor and merely clarify clerical issues in the rulebook or help outline procedures. There are also changes to the wording around telemetry, but again, only for better clarity. But there are TWO notable rule changes. Neither of which we supported.<br><br>1) Increase the weight limit to 5.5Kg TAKE OFF WEIGHT. This is a straight up increase for electric, and a change to weighing procedure for glow planes to include FULL tank of fuel. The issues here are obvious and I know we have many on both sides of this discussion, but it’s the new rule in FAI.<br><br>2) This one confounds me. They have changed the judging guidelines, such that they no longer want accurate geometry relative to the aircrafts plane of flight, but instead want geometric accuracy FROM THE JUDGES PERSPECITVE. In other words, a half loop at the end of the box needs to LOOK round, rather than BE round relative to the plane of flight. It completely changes our way of flying and makes tools like flight coach useless. <br><br>Personally, I can’t imagine this will last, and more over I can’t imagine this will actually be used. A few of us (US/ UK / AUS) fought hard against it, but in the end it won out. They had no explanation as to how cross box maneuvers will accomplish this (such as a rolling circle) but insisted this is what was wanted. I’m sure there will be much discussion at events prior to this going into effect.<br><br>There were also some minor changes for how ties are handled and better language and procedure for handling smaller championship events (<40 pilots). But most of that is benign. <br><br><br>F3A Starts on page 25<br><br></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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