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I have always judged integrated rolls with the start and completion of the roll within the designated arc. A half roll over the top 90 starts and completes the half roll at the 45 degree points.
<div>The four point would be the same the roll starts at 90. 180 should be the mid point of the upright or inverted section and the plane should complete the last 90 degree roll at 270 degrees. </div>
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<blockquote type="cite">On Nov 4, 2021, at 4:36 PM, john tarpinian via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org> wrote:<br>
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I would say it's not symmetrical in that after the first 1/4 loop there is a hesitation but just before reaching the 3:00 position you are rolling. My interpretation assuming entering the loop from the right.</div>
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1. After completing first 1/4 loop, hesitate and perform 1/4 roll coming to knife edge at 10:30</div>
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2. Hesitate and then perform 1/4 roll to coming to upright at 12:00.</div>
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3. Hesitate and come to knife edge at 1:30.</div>
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4. Hesitate and complete roll at 3:00. </div>
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The NSRCA description makes it sound like you should begin the roll at 9:00. See below.</div>
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Loop with integrated 4 point roll over the top 180 degrees. (U): From upright pull a ¼ inside loop, continue the loop while rolling 90 degrees, hesitate the roll while continuing the loop, roll 90° in the same direction while continuing loop, hesitate the
roll while continuing loop, the center of this hesitation should be at top dead center of the loop, roll 90° in the same direction while continuing the loop, hesitate the roll while continuing the loop, roll 90° in the same direction while continuing the loop,
completing the roll at 270° of the loop, pull ¼ inside loop to exit in level horizontal flight.</div>
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<div>On Thursday, November 4, 2021, 03:52:13 PM EDT, Don Ramsey via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
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