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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap:break-word'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Jon<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>That sounds very interesting regarding your RealFlight logging – we would be interested to see what you come up with there <span style='font-family:"Segoe UI Emoji",sans-serif'>😊</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Andrew<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> Jon Dieringer <jon@dieringerfamily.com> <br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, 17 February 2021 6:51 am<br><b>To:</b> Andrew Palmer <f3akiwi@gmail.com>; General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br><b>Cc:</b> Anthony Romano <anthonyr105@hotmail.com><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flight Coach - your F3A coaching aid!<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Andrew, <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>This is super interesting and thanks for sharing this. I have been thinking about the "Automated Judge" problem for a bit and have been capturing telemetry data from RealFlight and analyzing those datasets in python. Nothing sophisticated yet but have been working on how to automatically score a 4 point roll. I think it's pretty straightforward for scoring top pilots who have minimal variations but lower classes (and trying to judge my 4 point roll haha) is a harder problem. I think I am going to try to convert my Realflight logging to support your file format and then try to base some of these scoring algorithms on that. It would give a next step towards trialing these algorithms with real data and also an opportunity to have people share their flights as training sets for these algorithms. Worst case scenario is people could analyze their realflight datasets using your tool. <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thanks!<br>Jon<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Tue, Feb 16, 2021 at 12:30 PM Andrew Palmer via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Anthony<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thank you!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>We have no intentions to sell anything :-)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>We wanted to do something to help the precision flying community....<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>We have released the software under an open source license - anyone is free to modify as they wish :-)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>The ardupilot website has good information on hardware and getting up and running....<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thank you again for the kind words<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Andrew<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On 17/02/2021, at 06:26, Anthony Romano <<a href="mailto:anthonyr105@hotmail.com" target="_blank">anthonyr105@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Andrew,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>This is very cool! Thank you to your team for all of this work. I am sure some will ask you if intend to sell a completed hardware package since many would prefer to buy something complete. I look forward to the day that something like this can be integrated into judging so we are no longer reliant on the human recollection of what 45 degrees looks like.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Anthony<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></div><div id="gmail-m_3843460343648305676divRplyFwdMsg"><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='color:black'> NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>> on behalf of Andrew Palmer via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, February 16, 2021 11:50 AM<br><b>To:</b> Bob Kane <<a href="mailto:getterflash@yahoo.com" target="_blank">getterflash@yahoo.com</a>><br><b>Cc:</b> General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Flight Coach - your F3A coaching aid!</span> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Please check under the setup tab on the website<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>We give info to get a pixhawk mini and an omnibus f4 up and running<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>But any ardupilot compatible board with gps and sd writer should do the job... check the ardupilot website.....<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>This is free, and aimed at enthusiasts - there will be a bit of a learning curve....<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Andrew<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On 17/02/2021, at 04:54, Bob Kane <<a href="mailto:getterflash@yahoo.com" target="_blank">getterflash@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>I heard it has voice feedback . . . . . . "Fix it . . . ."<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>Bob Kane <a href="mailto:getterflash@yahoo.com" target="_blank">getterflash@yahoo.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div id="gmail-m_3843460343648305676x_ydp4c554e7cyahoo_quoted_3669538476"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>On Tuesday, February 16, 2021, 10:08:54 AM EST, Scott McNickle via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><div id="gmail-m_3843460343648305676x_ydp4c554e7cyiv4878533166"><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'>Yes, curious about the hardware required, didn't see any specifics at first glance. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#333333'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div id="gmail-m_3843460343648305676x_ydp4c554e7cyiv4878533166yqtfd29461"><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>On 02/16/2021 9:54 AM Matthew Finley via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>This is GREAT ! Does anyone know a link or video that goes through the entire process of what to buy, how to set-up in aircraft, use of software and etc ?? <o:p></o:p></span></b></p></div><div id="gmail-m_3843460343648305676x_ydp4c554e7cyiv4878533166appendonsend"><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></span></div><div id="gmail-m_3843460343648305676x_ydp4c554e7cyiv4878533166divRplyFwdMsg"><p class=MsoNormal><strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>From:</span></strong><span style='color:black'> NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>> on behalf of Andrew Palmer via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Sent:</span></strong> Tuesday, February 16, 2021 1:48 AM<br><strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>To:</span></strong> <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a> <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br><strong><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Subject:</span></strong> [NSRCA-discussion] Flight Coach - your F3A coaching aid!</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>We would like to introduce Flight Coach. A new tool for recording and analysing flight geometry aimed at the precision aerobatic disciplines F3A, IMAC, F3M, F3C and F3S. Flight Coach utilises recent advances in flight recording technology to provide high quality ribbon plots of your flights.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>The software is FREE to use! And almost any Ardupilot compatible hardware (FC + GPS, with SDCard writer) can be used - you may already have the hardware somewhere in your model shed.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>Flight Coach has been developed by a group of active F3A and IMAC pilots: Artur Uzieblo, Thomas David, Andrew Palmer and Russell Edwards. The plotter is free to use on our website and the hardware is low cost and widely available.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>We have provided lots more information on how to get started on our website, along with the plotter itself and a sample log file so you can try it out. </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282A'><a href="https://www.flightcoach.org/" target="_blank">https://www.flightcoach.org/</a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282A'><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NMehdGWrUE" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3NMehdGWrUE</a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282A'><a href="https://flightcoach.org/ribbon/demo.json" target="_blank"><span style='color:#364D96;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm;background:white'>Demo flight download link</span></a> (<a href="https://flightcoach.org/ribbon/demo.json)" target="_blank">https://flightcoach.org/ribbon/demo.json)</a></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#292929;background:white'> right click on the link, select “Save link as” and save this file to your PC, then open </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282A'><a href="https://www.flightcoach.org/the-plotter/" target="_blank"><span style='color:#364D96;border:none windowtext 1.0pt;padding:0cm;background:white'>the plotter</span></a> <a href="https://www.flightcoach.org/the-plotter/" target="_blank">https://www.flightcoach.org/the-plotter/</a> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#292929;background:white'>(along the top menu of </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#26282A'><a href="https://www.flightcoach.org/" target="_blank"><span style='background:white'>the website</span></a> <a href="https://www.flightcoach.org/" target="_blank">https://www.flightcoach.org/</a>)</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:#292929;background:white'>, select ‘Open Flight’ and load the saved file.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>Andrew and the Flight Coach team</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'><a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/flightcoach" target="_blank">https://www.facebook.com/groups/flightcoach</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:#26282A'>_______________________________________________ <br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list <br><a 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