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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple style='word-wrap: break-word;-webkit-nbsp-mode: space;line-break:after-white-space'><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>All the radii have to be the same. The question is what makes it a Reverse ET and what makes an ET. The reverse ET exits in the same direction, and the ET exits in the opposite direction. I think it is the direction of the loop, up for the ET and down for the Reverse ET.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Jerry Budd via NSRCA-discussion<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, August 20, 2020 6:44 PM<br><b>To:</b> NSRCA-list List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Maneuver Question<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Don,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>As it’s a center maneuver in this case, don’t all of the radii have to be the same? If so, the only independent variables are the initial radius, and the length of the upline.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Thx, Jerry<br><br>Budd Engineering<br><a href="mailto:jerry@buddengineering.com">jerry@buddengineering.com</a><br>661-435-0358<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Aug 20, 2020, at 4:32 PM, Tjpritchett via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"ArialMT","serif"'>Here it is from A-23; it’s easier to follow without rolling elements. The push loop, and push exit change the entrance/exit sides as a center maneuver.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"ArialMT","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"ArialMT","serif"'>A-23.11 Reverse Figure ET<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"ArialMT","serif"'>From upright pull through a one eighth loop into a forty five degree upline, push through a seven eighths loop into a vertical upline, push through a quarter loop , exit upright.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"ArialMT","serif"'>(Note: The vertical line must be in the center.)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"ArialMT","serif"'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"ArialMT","serif"'>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"ArialMT","serif"'><br>On Aug 20, 2020, at 1:21 PM, Don Ramsey via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><span style='color:purple'>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;font-variant-caps: normal;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: auto;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>No, I don’t think that is correct. An ET is often done as a turnaround and is described as 45 up, loop over the top to vertical downline, exit in opposite direction of entry. A reverse ET is done as a centered maneuver and described as 45 up, loop to a vertical upline, exit in same direction as entry. The only difference is the direction of the loop, ET up, reverse ET down. I don’t know if that is it and hoped some knew.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> </span></span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>NSRCA-discussion [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org"><span style='color:purple'>mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></b>Charlie Barrera via NSRCA-discussion<br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Thursday, August 20, 2020 10:36 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><span style='color:purple'>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Maneuver Question</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>The Reverse Figure ET in both A23 and P23 begin at the bottom - 45 degree uppline, 7/8 loop to vertical line, 1/4 loop to level flight. It's maneuver #11 in the Aresti diagram. I think the normal ET begins at the top with the 1/4 loop to vertical down line, 7/8 loop to 45 degree downline, 1/8 loop to exit. That would be my guess. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>On 08/20/2020 07:53 AM, Tjpritchett via NSRCA-discussion wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Is it not simply a reversal of the entrance and exit, so that it’s flown in the reverse direction?</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>Sent from my iPhone</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'><br>On Aug 20, 2020, at 8:32 AM, Don Ramsey via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><span style='color:purple'>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a>> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Does anyone know what makes a Figure ET a reverse ET vs an ET</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><span style='color:purple'>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion"><span style='color:purple'>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</span></a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif"'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre><pre>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><span style='color:purple'>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a><o:p></o:p></pre><pre><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion"><span style='color:purple'>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</span></a><o:p></o:p></pre></blockquote></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;font-variant-caps: normal;orphans: auto;text-align:start;widows: auto;-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;-webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;word-spacing:0px'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"ArialMT","serif"'>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><span style='color:purple'>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion"><span style='color:purple'>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"ArialMT","serif"'>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br></span><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"ArialMT","serif";color:purple'>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></a><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"ArialMT","serif"'><br></span><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"ArialMT","serif";color:purple'>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</span></a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>