<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Don,<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">As it’s a center maneuver in this case, don’t all of the radii have to be the same? If so, the only independent variables are the initial radius, and the length of the upline.</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class="">
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<div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Aug 20, 2020, at 4:32 PM, Tjpritchett via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: ArialMT; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">Here it is from A-23; it’s easier to follow without rolling elements. The push loop, and push exit change the entrance/exit sides as a center maneuver.</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: ArialMT; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br class=""></div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: ArialMT; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">A-23.11 Reverse Figure ET</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: ArialMT; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">From upright pull through a one eighth loop into a forty five degree upline, push through a seven eighths loop into a vertical upline, push through a quarter loop , exit upright.</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: ArialMT; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">(Note: The vertical line must be in the center.)</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: ArialMT; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br class=""></div><br style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: ArialMT; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: ArialMT; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class="">Sent from my iPhone</div><div style="caret-color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: ArialMT; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><br class="">On Aug 20, 2020, at 1:21 PM, Don Ramsey via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family: ArialMT; font-size: 13px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; text-decoration: none;" class=""><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">No, I don’t think that is correct. An ET is often done as a turnaround and is described as 45 up, loop over the top to vertical downline, exit in opposite direction of entry. A reverse ET is done as a centered maneuver and described as 45 up, loop to a vertical upline, exit in same direction as entry. The only difference is the direction of the loop, ET up, reverse ET down. I don’t know if that is it and hoped some knew.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>NSRCA-discussion [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Charlie Barrera via NSRCA-discussion<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, August 20, 2020 10:36 AM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Maneuver Question<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">The Reverse Figure ET in both A23 and P23 begin at the bottom - 45 degree uppline, 7/8 loop to vertical line, 1/4 loop to level flight. It's maneuver #11 in the Aresti diagram. I think the normal ET begins at the top with the 1/4 loop to vertical down line, 7/8 loop to 45 degree downline, 1/8 loop to exit. That would be my guess. <o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">On 08/20/2020 07:53 AM, Tjpritchett via NSRCA-discussion wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1.5pt; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); padding: 0in 0in 0in 4pt; margin-left: 3.75pt; margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">Is it not simply a reversal of the entrance and exit, so that it’s flown in the reverse direction?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">Sent from my iPhone<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;"><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class=""><br class="">On Aug 20, 2020, at 8:32 AM, Don Ramsey via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1.5pt; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); padding: 0in 0in 0in 4pt; margin-left: 3.75pt; margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1pt; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin: 5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Does anyone know what makes a Figure ET a reverse ET vs an ET</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-width: 1.5pt; border-left-color: rgb(16, 16, 255); padding: 0in 0in 0in 4pt; margin-left: 3.75pt; margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: "Times New Roman", serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Verdana, sans-serif;" class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" style="color: purple; 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