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    <p>As Chair of the sequence committee the intent was that the
      maneuver be square, equal horizontal and vertical.  I have
      searched for the maneuver descriptions that include that the
      horizontal segment of any top hat must be inverted and I I was
      unable to find that reference (everyone agrees on this point).  I 
      believe that there is also a reference to the line lengths on a
      center top hat maneuver being equal.  Pretty sure that they have
      always been so in the past.  If anyone can find that document that
      discusses top hats please let me know.</p>
    <p>I apologize for not including that downgrade in the maneuver
      descriptions.  (another vote for having a document with basic
      downgrades for each maneuver type for future sequence committees
      to use.)</p>
    <p>If not including the downgrade in the maneuver description
      changes the maneuver that was intended, I also apologize for the
      oversight.</p>
    <p>Stuart<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 8/5/2020 9:06 PM, Daniel Underkofler
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      <div dir="ltr">I'm with Vince on the center top hat:  no symmetry
        is specified, so only up and down lines must be equal.
        <div>I'm with Stuart on the end box top hat from top. 
          Turnaround maneuvers don't need to have equal entry and exit
          altitudes.  End box top hats need only have an identifiable
          line at top/bottom.</div>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 4:05 PM
          Vicente Bortone via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" moz-do-not-send="true">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>>
          wrote:<br>
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            <div dir="auto">Of course exit and entry altitude has to be
              equal.  Therefore both vertical lines have to be equal but
              not necessarily equal to horizontal line. </div>
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              <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at
                5:01 PM Vicente Bortone <<a href="mailto:vincebrc@gmail.com" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">vincebrc@gmail.com</a>>
                wrote:<br>
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                  <div dir="auto">I believe there is no requirement if
                    there is no description.  </div>
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                    <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Wed, Aug 5,
                      2020 at 2:01 PM Don Ramsey via NSRCA-discussion
                      <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>>
                      wrote:<br>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">A
                                  judging question:</span></p>
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                              <p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">You
                                  are judging the Masters centered top
                                  hat.  Are there requirements for the
                                  length of lines?</span></p>
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                <div dir="ltr">Vicente "Vince" Bortone</div>
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