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<div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">I always thought it was % in of the box was the best score then downgrade from there for the elements still in the box. </div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false"><br></div><div dir="ltr" data-setdir="false">John</div><div><br></div>
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On Sunday, July 5, 2020, 05:13:24 PM CDT, Vicente Bortone via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org> wrote:
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<div><div id="ydpbfa25e3byiv0293402567"><div><div><div>I agree with Cliff. I don’t think the current rule book consider to count elements out of the box. In any event, there is no time to do it and it is not practical. </div></div><div><br clear="none"></div><div>Vicente “Vince” Bortone </div><div><br clear="none"><div class="ydpbfa25e3byiv0293402567gmail_quote"><div class="ydpbfa25e3byiv0293402567gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 4:52 PM Don Ramsey via NSRCA-discussion <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></div><blockquote class="ydpbfa25e3byiv0293402567gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="ydpbfa25e3byiv0293402567m_-7454391857077586917WordSection1"><p class="ydpbfa25e3byiv0293402567MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;">So, how many points do you downgrade?<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><div lang="EN-US"><div class="ydpbfa25e3byiv0293402567m_-7454391857077586917WordSection1"><p class="ydpbfa25e3byiv0293402567MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div style="border:none;border-top:solid #b5c4df 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p class="ydpbfa25e3byiv0293402567MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;"> NSRCA-discussion [mailto:<a shape="rect" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Vicente Bortone via NSRCA-discussion<br clear="none"><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, July 5, 2020 4:11 PM<br clear="none"><b>To:</b> Keith Black; General pattern discussion<br clear="none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Judging question<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class="ydpbfa25e3byiv0293402567MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="ydpbfa25e3byiv0293402567MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:10.0pt;line-height:115%;">I will do a proportion of the square out of the box. <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydpbfa25e3byiv0293402567MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:10.0pt;line-height:115%;"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><div><div><p class="ydpbfa25e3byiv0293402567MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:10.0pt;line-height:115%;">Vicente "Vince" Bortone<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="ydpbfa25e3byiv0293402567MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:10.0pt;line-height:115%;"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div><p class="ydpbfa25e3byiv0293402567MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:10.0pt;line-height:115%;"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="ydpbfa25e3byiv0293402567MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:10.0pt;line-height:115%;">On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 4:01 PM Keith Black via NSRCA-discussion <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;"><div><div><p class="ydpbfa25e3byiv0293402567MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:10.0pt;line-height:115%;">Nice question. Sounds like 3/8 this of the maneuver is not acceptable, that leaves you with about a 6. Unless you decide to zero on the grounds that the entire maneuver must be in the box. <u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydpbfa25e3byiv0293402567MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:10.0pt;line-height:115%;"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydpbfa25e3byiv0293402567MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:10.0pt;line-height:115%;">Keith<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="ydpbfa25e3byiv0293402567MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:10.0pt;line-height:115%;"><u></u> <u></u></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class="ydpbfa25e3byiv0293402567MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:10.0pt;line-height:115%;">On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 3:26 PM Don Ramsey via NSRCA-discussion <<a shape="rect" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;"><div><div><blockquote style="margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div><p class="ydpbfa25e3byiv0293402567MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d;">During a judging discussion recently, a question came up that I would like to get input from the group. Setup: A centered square loop (as if there could be a turnaround version) is flown with the upper radii and horizontal line flown out of the box. The other elements are perfect. What is your downgrade for the box violation?</span><u></u><u></u></p></div></blockquote></div></div><p class="ydpbfa25e3byiv0293402567MsoNormal" style="line-height:115%;">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div></div><p class="ydpbfa25e3byiv0293402567MsoNormal" style="line-height:115%;">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><u></u><u></u></p></blockquote></div></div></div>_______________________________________________<br clear="none">
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