<p dir="ltr">An old Futaba 9VAP that I got from my dad had a mix for variable pitch props built in. Didn't have anything for two elevator servos, but it had variable pitch!</p>
</br></br><div class="device_aol_et_org_dt_dd_quote"></div><hr style="border:0;height:1px;color:#999;background-color:#999;width:100%;margin:0 0 9px 0;padding:0;"></hr><span style="font-size:14px; color:#999999;">On Sunday, March 29, 2020 James Oddino via NSRCA-discussion <<span style="color:#0000A0">joddino@me.com; nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span>> wrote:</span><br></br><div id="yiv4430528393"><html><head></head><div>I’m not sure the variable pitch props were ever sold to the public and I’m pretty sure it was a safety concern. One needed to have a setup that assured you could never go to high throttle when the prop was at low pitch. I would think that could be easily accomplished with modern RC equipment and especially with electric power. Perhaps we will see it again but the question is, is it needed?<div class="yiv4430528393"><br clear="none" class="yiv4430528393"></div><div class="yiv4430528393">Jim O<br clear="none" class="yiv4430528393"><div class="yiv4430528393yqt1257111850" id="yiv4430528393yqt23942"><div><br clear="none" class="yiv4430528393"><blockquote class="yiv4430528393" type="cite"><div class="yiv4430528393">On Mar 29, 2020, at 7:22 AM, mups53 via NSRCA-discussion <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv4430528393" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:</div><br clear="none" class="yiv4430528393Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="yiv4430528393"></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div><head></head><div class="yiv4430528393yqt1257111850" id="yiv4430528393yqt35056"><div><div class="yiv4430528393"><div class="yiv4430528393">That's excellence and longevity extraordinaire.</div><div class="yiv4430528393">I absolutely loved the video. Ivan and and Chip going head to head. Relevant discussions on the nuances of particular maneuvers. Wow!.</div><div class="yiv4430528393"> Chip if I'm correct flew at a high level for four decades including World Championships from the 80's all the way until the teens. He still to this day is a world class talent.</div><div class="yiv4430528393"> Ivan was the Canadian champion for how many years? How many TOC's and World Championships did he fly at?</div><div class="yiv4430528393">Mike</div><div class="yiv4430528393"><br clear="none" class="yiv4430528393"></div><div class="yiv4430528393"><br clear="none" class="yiv4430528393"></div><div class="yiv4430528393"><br clear="none" class="yiv4430528393"></div><div class="yiv4430528393" id="yiv4430528393composer_signature"><div class="yiv4430528393" style="font-size:85%;color:#575757;">Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone</div></div><div class="yiv4430528393"><br clear="none" class="yiv4430528393"></div><div class="yiv4430528393"><br clear="none" class="yiv4430528393"></div><div class="yiv4430528393" style="font-size:100%;"><div class="yiv4430528393">-------- Original message --------</div><div class="yiv4430528393">From: Daniel Underkofler via NSRCA-discussion <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv4430528393" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> </div><div class="yiv4430528393">Date: 3/28/20 8:25 PM (GMT-06:00) </div><div class="yiv4430528393">To: Dave Lockhart <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv4430528393" ymailto="mailto:davel322@comcast.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:davel322@comcast.net">davel322@comcast.net</a>>, General pattern discussion <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv4430528393" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> </div><div class="yiv4430528393">Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 1985 Nats </div><div class="yiv4430528393"><br clear="none" class="yiv4430528393"></div></div><div class="yiv4430528393" dir="ltr">Dave Snow won Sportsman that year.... and 34 years later he wins Masters!!!</div><br clear="none" class="yiv4430528393"><div class="yiv4430528393gmail_quote"><div class="yiv4430528393gmail_attr" dir="ltr">On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 10:22 AM davel322--- via NSRCA-discussion <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv4430528393" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none" class="yiv4430528393"></div><blockquote class="yiv4430528393gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;"><div class="yiv4430528393" lang="EN-US"><div class="yiv4430528393gmail-m_153222464908567775WordSection1"><p class="yiv4430528393MsoNormal">MK made a spinner and propeller assembly that used an extra servo to adjust the pitch of the propellers. A Pmix between the throttle servo and pitch servo was used to flatten the pitch at low RPM (better braking) and increase pitch at higher throttle. As Ivan said….pricy….and added substantial weight (5 or so ounces) at a time when most F3A planes were 8 lbs +/-.<u class="yiv4430528393"></u><u class="yiv4430528393"></u></p><p class="yiv4430528393MsoNormal"><u class="yiv4430528393"></u> <u class="yiv4430528393"></u></p><p class="yiv4430528393MsoNormal">Regards,<u class="yiv4430528393"></u><u class="yiv4430528393"></u></p><p class="yiv4430528393MsoNormal"><br clear="none" class="yiv4430528393">Dave<u class="yiv4430528393"></u><u class="yiv4430528393"></u></p><p class="yiv4430528393MsoNormal"><u class="yiv4430528393"></u> <u class="yiv4430528393"></u></p><p class="yiv4430528393MsoNormal"><b class="yiv4430528393">From:</b> NSRCA-discussion <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv4430528393" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>> <b class="yiv4430528393">On Behalf Of </b>Justin Wells via NSRCA-discussion<br clear="none" class="yiv4430528393"><b class="yiv4430528393">Sent:</b> Saturday, March 28, 2020 12:18 PM<br clear="none" class="yiv4430528393"><b class="yiv4430528393">To:</b> General pattern discussion <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv4430528393" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>>; <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv4430528393" ymailto="mailto:tocdon@netscape.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:tocdon@netscape.net">tocdon@netscape.net</a><br clear="none" class="yiv4430528393"><b class="yiv4430528393">Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] 1985 Nats<u class="yiv4430528393"></u><u class="yiv4430528393"></u></p><p class="yiv4430528393MsoNormal"><u class="yiv4430528393"></u> <u class="yiv4430528393"></u></p><div class="yiv4430528393"><div class="yiv4430528393"><p class="yiv4430528393MsoNormal">What were the variable pitch props Ivan was talking about in the video? Seems like an interesting concept.<u class="yiv4430528393"></u><u class="yiv4430528393"></u></p></div></div><div class="yiv4430528393"><p class="yiv4430528393MsoNormal"><u class="yiv4430528393"></u> <u class="yiv4430528393"></u></p></div><div class="yiv4430528393"><div class="yiv4430528393"><div class="yiv4430528393"><p class="yiv4430528393MsoNormal">On Sat, Mar 28, 2020 at 9:19 AM Don Szczur via NSRCA-discussion <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv4430528393" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<u class="yiv4430528393"></u><u class="yiv4430528393"></u></p></div><blockquote class="yiv4430528393" style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in;"><div class="yiv4430528393"><p class="yiv4430528393MsoNormal"><span class="yiv4430528393" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">Xavier, Nice find. I flew in Advanced that year and was just looking through those pictures in my photo album. <u class="yiv4430528393"></u><u class="yiv4430528393"></u></span></p><div class="yiv4430528393"><p class="yiv4430528393MsoNormal"><span class="yiv4430528393" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"><u class="yiv4430528393"></u> <u class="yiv4430528393"></u></span></p></div><div class="yiv4430528393"><p class="yiv4430528393MsoNormal"><span class="yiv4430528393" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">Great to hear the Chip Hyde interview- description on the elevator to preserve geometry of the avalanche is right on. <u class="yiv4430528393"></u><u class="yiv4430528393"></u></span></p><div class="yiv4430528393"><p class="yiv4430528393MsoNormal"><span class="yiv4430528393" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"><u class="yiv4430528393"></u> <u class="yiv4430528393"></u></span></p></div><div class="yiv4430528393"><p class="yiv4430528393MsoNormal"><span class="yiv4430528393" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">Ivan's advice on the six sided loop is still relevant today....<u class="yiv4430528393"></u><u class="yiv4430528393"></u></span></p></div><div class="yiv4430528393"><p class="yiv4430528393MsoNormal"><span class="yiv4430528393" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"><u class="yiv4430528393"></u> <u class="yiv4430528393"></u></span></p></div><div class="yiv4430528393"><p class="yiv4430528393MsoNormal"><span class="yiv4430528393" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">"Make the corners with authority, don't make maneuver too big, and the (F21- half 8 sided loop with two half rolls) becomes much easier to do..."<u class="yiv4430528393"></u><u class="yiv4430528393"></u></span></p></div><div class="yiv4430528393"><p class="yiv4430528393MsoNormal"><span class="yiv4430528393" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"><u class="yiv4430528393"></u> <u class="yiv4430528393"></u></span></p></div><div class="yiv4430528393"><p class="yiv4430528393MsoNormal"><span class="yiv4430528393" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"> and Dean Pappas discussing the finer points....<u class="yiv4430528393"></u><u class="yiv4430528393"></u></span></p></div><div class="yiv4430528393"><div class="yiv4430528393"><p class="yiv4430528393MsoNormal"><span class="yiv4430528393" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"><u class="yiv4430528393"></u> <u class="yiv4430528393"></u></span></p></div><div class="yiv4430528393"><div class="yiv4430528393"><p class="yiv4430528393MsoNormal"><span class="yiv4430528393" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">"A winning airplane starts in the workshop."- Dean Pappas. <u class="yiv4430528393"></u><u class="yiv4430528393"></u></span></p></div><div class="yiv4430528393"><p class="yiv4430528393MsoNormal"><span class="yiv4430528393" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"><u class="yiv4430528393"></u> <u class="yiv4430528393"></u></span></p></div><div class="yiv4430528393"><p class="yiv4430528393MsoNormal"><span class="yiv4430528393" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">Dave Lockhart found the old EU-1 series Dean referred to... <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv4430528393" target="_blank" href="https://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/classic-rc-pattern-flying-379/10860066-rules-history-eu1-pics.html?styleid=7">https://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/classic-rc-pattern-flying-379/10860066-rules-history-eu1-pics.html?styleid=7</a><u class="yiv4430528393"></u><u class="yiv4430528393"></u></span></p></div><div class="yiv4430528393"><p class="yiv4430528393MsoNormal"><span class="yiv4430528393" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"><u class="yiv4430528393"></u> <u class="yiv4430528393"></u></span></p></div><div class="yiv4430528393"><p class="yiv4430528393MsoNormal"><span class="yiv4430528393" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">Cheers,<u class="yiv4430528393"></u><u class="yiv4430528393"></u></span></p></div><div class="yiv4430528393"><p class="yiv4430528393MsoNormal"><span class="yiv4430528393" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">Don<u class="yiv4430528393"></u><u class="yiv4430528393"></u></span></p></div><div class="yiv4430528393"><p class="yiv4430528393MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt;"><span class="yiv4430528393" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;"><u class="yiv4430528393"></u> <u class="yiv4430528393"></u></span></p><div class="yiv4430528393"><p class="yiv4430528393MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt;"><span class="yiv4430528393" style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;">-----Original Message-----<br clear="none" class="yiv4430528393">From: Xavier Mouraux via NSRCA-discussion <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv4430528393" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br clear="none" class="yiv4430528393">To: General Pattern Discussion <<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv4430528393" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br clear="none" class="yiv4430528393">Sent: Fri, Mar 27, 2020 8:08 pm<br clear="none" class="yiv4430528393">Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] 1985 Nats<u class="yiv4430528393"></u><u class="yiv4430528393"></u></span></p><div class="yiv4430528393" id="yiv4430528393gmail-m_153222464908567775m_4151143951840061769yiv7585232035"><div class="yiv4430528393"><div class="yiv4430528393"><div class="yiv4430528393"><p class="yiv4430528393MsoNormal"><span class="yiv4430528393" style="font-size:12pt;font-family:Verdana, sans-serif;">The 1985 Nats at about 20 min in the video: <a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" class="yiv4430528393" target="_blank" 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