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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link="#0563C1" vlink="#954F72"><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>If the radii are not matched, that is a downgrade.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Longer lines will result in a lower exit, while shorter lines will result in a higher exit.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Some nice drawings are shown on RCU – look at post 5, drawing #1. Assumption is flying at 150 meters to an elevation of 60 degrees on the preceding Figure Z.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/rc-pattern-flying-101/11672060-fai-p21-trainwreck-sequence.html">https://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/rc-pattern-flying-101/11672060-fai-p21-trainwreck-sequence.html</a><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>The exit of the Z happens 150’ before center. Assume the plane is going 70 mph (100 feet per second). ½ second of straight and level, and then the 4 point roll happens in 2 seconds….very fast.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Horrible sequence of maneuvers that basically forces the pilot to fly a semi rushed short Z at 175 meters and a semi rushed 4 point roll.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Dave<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b>From:</b> NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Atwood, Mark via NSRCA-discussion<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 21, 2019 9:41 PM<br><b>To:</b> J <vellum2@bellsouth.net>; General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] P-21.14 Comet question for the experts<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>They DO need to be the same length. Altitude adjustment can be accomplished with adjustment of loop radius. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Dec 21, 2019, at 8:45 PM, J via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none black 1.0pt;border-left:solid black 4.5pt;padding:3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt 3.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='line-height:12.0pt;background:yellow'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'>CAUTION:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;color:black'> Message originated from outside of Paragon. Use caution regarding any links, attachments, credential and financial requests. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>No they don’t. It’s a turn around maneuver that can be used for height adjustment. The power point specifically addresses this question in the downgrades. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Joe<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Dec 21, 2019, at 8:29 PM, AC Glenn via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Yes they do<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Dec 21, 2019, at 7:14 PM, Don Szczur via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>This may have been asked already, but do the lines have to be the same length? <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Don<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div></body></html>