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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Looks to me like the entry and exit altitude are certainly not the same. That has nothing to do with line length. If the Subcommittee has said the lengths need to be the same that is the way it will be judged at the WC. Might as well do it as they specify.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>GLEN WATSON via NSRCA-discussion<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, December 21, 2019 9:05 PM<br><b>To:</b> AC Glenn; General pattern discussion; J<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] P-21.14 Comet question for the experts<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>This is the challenge of interpreting and applying consistent judging standards. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>According to 5B.2 and 5B.10: <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>In general, turn-around manoeuvres are positioning manoeuvres. Therefore, entry and exit altitude need not be the same if the pilot wishes to make an attitude adjustment. The keywords are 'in general', this implies 5B.2 and 5B.10 would be in effect unless otherwise specified in the manoeuvre description. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>P-21.14 description: <br>Comet with consecutive two ¼ rolls in opposite directions, ½ roll. From upright, push through a 1/8 loop into a 45° downline, perform consecutively two ¼ rolls in opposite directions, pull through a ¾ loop into a 45° downline, perform a ½ roll, pull through a 1/8 loop, exit upright. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>In the description of P-21.14 there is no requirement mentioned to line length or how the lines are drawn except they are 45 degrees. Therefore I surmise the standard under 5B.2 and 5B.10 should be applied. <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>Regards, <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>Glen Watson <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'>On December 21, 2019 at 8:15 PM AC Glenn via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org> wrote: <br><br><img width=828 height=1792 id=ox-45308bca5e-80B871B1-8B1B-41D7-9FCF-843E925920F0-L0-001 src="cid:image001.png@01D5B8A7.02D1A2C0"><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Dec 21, 2019, at 7:45 PM, J <vellum2@bellsouth.net> wrote: <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>No they don’t. It’s a turn around maneuver that can be used for height adjustment. The power point specifically addresses this question in the downgrades. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Joe <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Dec 21, 2019, at 8:29 PM, AC Glenn via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org> wrote: <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Yes they do <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sent from my iPhone <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>On Dec 21, 2019, at 7:14 PM, Don Szczur via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org> wrote: <o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>This may have been asked already, but do the lines have to be the same length? <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Thanks, <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>Don <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________ <br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list <br>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org <br>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion <o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________ <br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list <br>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org <br>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________ <br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list <br>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org <br>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion <o:p></o:p></p></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:#333333'><br> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></body></html>