<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">I still disagree. This maneuver has been flown since the late 70’s, early 80’s. The center has always been considered to be the point where the roll reverses. Don’t forget the last wing level is a “point” and should be considered a part of the maneuver. <br><br><div id="AppleMailSignature">Tony Frackowiak </div><div><br>On Nov 26, 2019, at 3:44 PM, Stuart Chale via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div>

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<p>The maneuver description calls for a hesitation at 270 degrees, not an immediate reversal in this case.  So the center is the middle of the second knife edge.</p>
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That was my understanding as well.  I believe that is what we had in the description of the maneuver under the downgrades.  It said “maneuver not centered” In parentheses it had “knife edge”.  I assume that would be the center of the second knife edge.
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<div>That is certainly my interpretation as well.</div>
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<div>Date: 11/26/19 5:16 AM (GMT-08:00) </div>
<div>To: Don Ramsey via NSRCA-discussion <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">
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<div>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Center of 3 of 4 pt roll reversed </div>
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<p>I believe it should be the center of the second knife edge.</p>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 11/26/2019 8:02 AM, Don Ramsey via NSRCA-discussion wrote:<br>
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