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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">I have reviewed 3 of 4. As soon as I have a few hours to go over the Masters I will and send them to Derek. Hopefully in the next day or two.
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<p style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px;">A big thanks to James Hiller for making these again. A lot of work goes into them.</p>
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<div dir="auto">Look at the current sequences page and in the menu to the left you’ll see a selection for PowerPoint presentations. <br>
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<blockquote type="cite">On Nov 25, 2019, at 4:51 PM, Don Szczur via NSRCA-discussion
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<span>With regard to the golf ball - please look over the PowerPoint presentation on the Nsrca web site for different views of what an appropriate golf ball may look like - page 7. And yes the entry/exit radii must match the top - page 6.
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>1. Golfball - does the entry/exit radii need to match the top? The maneuver seems to get HUGE. I'm thinking I need to tighten the initial segment of the top loop. And then tighten the last segment, to preserve the second 45
down line. Hit 45, and not be "flat", else the top loop gets even bigger.</span><br clear="none">
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>2. 1/2 Cuban 8, 2/4 pt, 1/4 Roll, Knife edge 5/8 Loop: EXCELLENT maneuver for airplane trimming :) Roll & pitch mix to Rudder viewed every flight haha. With the Invitation, Left Rudder zero/zero, Right rudder bout 5% down elevator,
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>5. Funky Humpty (center cross); Attempting to "fix" the spline after the 1/4 loop integrated just makes it worse. Must "ping" this upline and just power through into the roll. Downline - yikes - If you go "out", and looking
at the "Bottom" of the plane - Lead with the Rudder that points the direction you want to go, then aileron/elevator. Wrong Rudder at this point with freeze your brain!@! haha</span><br clear="none">
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>9. Top-Hat: Pretty cool maneuver! If in doubt, begin early, but the "exit" determines the next maneuver.</span><br clear="none">
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>10. 1/2 Square loop, 1/2 roll entry: Must hit the previous "exit" perfectly, then 1/2 Roll entry into 1/2 sure. 1/2 roll entry is a kind of a refreshing take on this maneuver. </span><br clear="none">
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>13. Loop with opposite integrated rolls: cool maneuver - seems to go best when not trying to make too big or over control. Error on the "power power" for heading up the backside, makes coordinating the aileron/rudder easier.
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>14. Positive 2.5 turn spin - nice given P21 has a 2.5 negative spin.
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>16. Fighter Turn: 3/4 Roll, 3/4 Snap to Upright. For some reason, flying Left to Right, I hit this OK. Flying right to Left, its been a visual disaster for me. This is my worst maneuver so far. I'll need to specifically practice
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<blockquote type="cite"><span>17. Horizontal Square: 1/4 Roll, 1/2 rolls out, 1/4 roll. So far, looks worse on paper than it is. Of course, its beneficial to be a tad higher baseline to fly this. When pushing the corners, almost no rudder is needed to
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