<div dir="ltr">For F3A, given that reversed rolls must be "instantaneous" then, yes, the point of roll reversal is the point where you hit the second KE and instantly reverse to begin the second 3 of 4. But in the case of Masters/AMA rules where reversed rolls *may* have a pause, then you may be in the second KE for more than a few milliseconds and therefore you are drawing a line in that KE, therefore, the center for masters would be the center of that KE line. If the line is of zero length (as it must be in F3A) then the center is the point where you "bounce" off KE.<div><br></div><div>Peter+</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 26, 2019 at 12:12 PM Anthony Frackowiak via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">In the past it has always been the point of the roll reversal.<div><br></div><div>Tony Frackowiak</div><div><br></div><div><br><div><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Nov 26, 2019, at 11:21 AM, joncarter60 via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:</div><br><div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">That is certainly my interpretation as well.</div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">Jon Carter</div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br></div><div id="gmail-m_-5363532342689078621composer_signature" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div dir="auto" style="font-size:10px;color:rgb(87,87,87)">Sent via the Samsung Galaxy S® 6 edge, an AT&T 4G LTE smartphone</div></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Stuart Chale via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><span> </span></div><div>Date: 11/26/19 5:16 AM (GMT-08:00)<span> </span></div><div>To: Don Ramsey via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" style="color:purple;text-decoration:underline" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><span> </span></div><div>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Center of 3 of 4 pt roll reversed<span> </span></div><div><br></div></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">I believe it should be the center of the second knife edge.</div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">Stuart<br></div><div style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px">On 11/26/2019 8:02 AM, Don Ramsey via NSRCA-discussion wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite" style="font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;font-style:normal;font-variant-caps:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;text-align:start;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;word-spacing:0px"><div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Has anyone considered what the center of the 3of4 pt rolls reversed in the Masters sequence might be?<u></u><u></u></span></div><div style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:12pt;font-family:"Times New Roman",serif"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><pre style="margin:0in 0in 0.0001pt;font-size:10pt;font-family:"Courier New""><u></u> <u></u></pre></blockquote></div><br><fieldset></fieldset><pre style="margin:0in 0in 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