<div dir="ltr">Excellent presentation! Thanks for pointing it out. <div>Jim </div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 1:41 PM Jas S via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto"><a href="https://nsrca.us/index.php/powerpoint-presentations" target="_blank">https://nsrca.us/index.php/powerpoint-presentations</a><br><br><div dir="ltr">Jas iP</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Nov 25, 2019, at 2:19 PM, Derek Koopowitz via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><span>Jim,</span><br><span></span><br><span>With regard to the golf ball - please look over the PowerPoint presentation on the Nsrca web site for different views of what an appropriate golf ball may look like - page 7. And yes the entry/exit radii must match the top - page 6. </span><br><span></span><br><span>Best,</span><br><span>Derek</span><br><span></span><br><span>Sent from my iPhone</span><br><span></span><br><blockquote type="cite"><span>On Nov 25, 2019, at 10:50 AM, james woodward via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Some F21 Manuever Discussion:</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>1. Golfball - does the entry/exit radii need to match the top? The maneuver seems to get HUGE. I'm thinking I need to tighten the initial segment of the top loop. And then tighten the last segment, to preserve the second 45 down line. Hit 45, and not be "flat", else the top loop gets even bigger.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>2. 1/2 Cuban 8, 2/4 pt, 1/4 Roll, Knife edge 5/8 Loop: EXCELLENT maneuver for airplane trimming :) Roll & pitch mix to Rudder viewed every flight haha. With the Invitation, Left Rudder zero/zero, Right rudder bout 5% down elevator, 1.5% Left Aileron :) </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>3. Roller - 1/2 in, 1/2 out - also excellent rudder trim maneuver. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>4. Top Hat - good maneuver after the roller</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>5. Funky Humpty (center cross); Attempting to "fix" the spline after the 1/4 loop integrated just makes it worse. Must "ping" this upline and just power through into the roll. Downline - yikes - If you go "out", and looking at the "Bottom" of the plane - Lead with the Rudder that points the direction you want to go, then aileron/elevator. Wrong Rudder at this point with freeze your brain!@! haha</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>6. 3/4 8 with 1/2 roll - not too bad - no reason to go too tall</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>7. Funky Hammer (Center with looping sections): Not too bad, but difficult to get the "downline" on center for sure. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>8. Figure 9 with 1.5 snap: not too bad. Fly at the end of the box to give room for center top-hat</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>9. Top-Hat: Pretty cool maneuver! If in doubt, begin early, but the "exit" determines the next maneuver.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>10. 1/2 Square loop, 1/2 roll entry: Must hit the previous "exit" perfectly, then 1/2 Roll entry into 1/2 sure. 1/2 roll entry is a kind of a refreshing take on this maneuver. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>11. 45 down line: 1/4 roll, snap, opposite snap, 1/4 roll. I haven't nailed this yet, but so far, Positive first, Negative second, seems to help hold the 45 line. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>12. 1/2 8 sided with 1/2 rolls 1xt,3rd legs. Not too bad. Also, try not to get too tall.</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>13. Loop with opposite integrated rolls: cool maneuver - seems to go best when not trying to make too big or over control. Error on the "power power" for heading up the backside, makes coordinating the aileron/rudder easier. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>14. Positive 2.5 turn spin - nice given P21 has a 2.5 negative spin. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>15. Roll Combo: Nice manuever - but "exit" into the Fighter Turn...</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>16. Fighter Turn: 3/4 Roll, 3/4 Snap to Upright. For some reason, flying Left to Right, I hit this OK. Flying right to Left, its been a visual disaster for me. This is my worst maneuver so far. I'll need to specifically practice this one. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>17. Horizontal Square: 1/4 Roll, 1/2 rolls out, 1/4 roll. So far, looks worse on paper than it is. Of course, its beneficial to be a tad higher baseline to fly this. When pushing the corners, almost no rudder is needed to maintain height. This is a rudder brain teaser, as you are constantly in/out of rudder same direction while pushing corners, then rolling, then in/out other direction during corner pushes. </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Anyone else have some comments yet on F21?</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>Jim </span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>_______________________________________________</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span>NSRCA-discussion mailing list</span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a></span><br></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><span><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a></span><br></blockquote><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>NSRCA-discussion mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a></span><br><span><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a></span></div></blockquote></div>_______________________________________________<br>
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