<div style="color:black;font: 10pt Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif;">I had the same thought....If NATS continue to be 50-60 pilots, could we adopt a 3-4 day format rather than spreading it out a whole week. Although it's still a long drive, most participation comes already from the district the NATS is held in.
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<div>September would be great, but if AMA wants all NATS to be in a month, I'm not sure how they'll respond. I suppose Monte will explore this at the NATS ED meeting in Muncie coming up.<br>
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<div>The last organized event in Muncie that I know of is the Indiana Warbird Campaign that's over the labor day weekend and takes up site 4.</div>
<div> Would there be less of an issue in September with the sun in the morning being a problem on the right side? Would we need to start a tad later in the am to allow for the shorter daylight?</div>
<div> Hotel availability could be an issue if it coincides with a Ball State football game.</div>
<div> Also there is a weekend in September where they have two large car shows that uses up most of the hotel rooms.</div>
<div> One other thought. If the site is wide open can the Nats be sandwiched into a weekend event to eliminate the need to take a full week of work off?</div>
<div>Say from Wednesday to Saturday? Like this year?</div>
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I’m all for September. The NATS should conclude the portion of the year we all share as our flying season. <br>
Youth shouldn’t be part of the discussion. Mark mentioned a few events, and there are others, that dozens of young pilots attend during their school year.
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What about September? Weather is gorgeous this time of year here and let’s face it, for many this is the ideal time as we’re coming to the end of our competition season.
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<div class="yiv2108999609">July 6-10 no good for many. Remainder of July into August is booked. Should we consider 3rd or 4th week of June (if available) or find another site (much more work and cost to make successful)??
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<font size="+1" class="yiv2108999609"><font face="Arial" class="yiv2108999609">Changing the NATS dates to any week other than the one used in 2019 may place one or more D1 contests at a disadvantage, or need to also be moved due to lack of local event CD. Our D1 2020 season may have
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So, any interest in setting up a poll? Some actual numbers might help our cause, since it seems everyone is either neutral or against the 7/6 week...<br clear="none" class="yiv2108999609">
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To: Robert G Satalino<span class="yiv2108999609Apple-converted-space"> </span><a rel="noopener noreferrer" class="yiv2108999609moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:rcairbob1@comcast.net" target="_blank" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline;" href="mailto:rcairbob1@comcast.net"><rcairbob1@comcast.net></a><br clear="none" class="yiv2108999609">
Cc: General pattern discussion<span class="yiv2108999609Apple-converted-space"> </span><a rel="noopener noreferrer" class="yiv2108999609moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline;" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org></a><br clear="none" class="yiv2108999609">
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<div class="yiv2108999609">The AMA site is booked for the first two weeks of August for a helicopter event. The last weeks are after school starts.
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I think the later the better. After all here in the cold areas we don’t get to start practice maybe the middle of May but this past year it was June due to the wet weather and winds. Plus next year it’s a new schedule so, sometime around mid or late August
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<span class="yiv2108999609">From: Monte Richard via NSRCA-discussion <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" style="color:blue;text-decoration:underline;" class="yiv2108999609" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>></span></div>
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<span class="yiv2108999609">Subject: [NSRCA-discussion] 2020 Nats poll</span></div>
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If the 2020 Nats were held July 6<sup class="yiv2108999609">th</sup><span class="yiv2108999609Apple-converted-space"> </span>thru the 10<sup class="yiv2108999609">th</sup>, which means you would be traveling to Muncie on the 4<sup class="yiv2108999609">th</sup><span class="yiv2108999609Apple-converted-space"> </span>of July
weekend, and the following weekend is the Ball State University Triathelon that normally make hotel reservations almost impossible to get for the Friday July 10<sup class="yiv2108999609">th</sup><span class="yiv2108999609Apple-converted-space"> </span>thru that weekend, (note the awards
banquet would be held on the Friday night July 10<sup class="yiv2108999609">th</sup>), will you attend?</div>
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If you have no plans on attending the Nats, please do not respond to this question. I am trying to see, of those who normally plan to attend and those planning to attend in 2020 who would change their mind and not attend due to the dates.</div>
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