<font color='black' size='2' face='Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif'>Keep in mind, for analysis below, no consideration is being given to whether pilot 1 and pilot 2's planes were different. What we don't know is how much 'better' a pilot flies a 2M vs. a 1.75 or smaller airplane to critique the 10%. We'd be hard pressed, I think, to get a firm, accurate number to represent that difference. We'd have to have a single pilot fly both sized planes in front of a set of judges, probably multiple times, to know if there was any real difference at all.
<div>That said, it's a penalty - something a pilot must choose to work with or around. If we want to discourage 2M, then pick a high number. If it's to level the field, pick a lower one.<br>
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<div>John, I hope the idea of any of these rules proposals is NOT to allow the lesser pilot to win!</div>
<div>We just are talking about leveling the playing field to account for equipment.</div>
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<div class="yiv7004707433MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt;">I just went into one of last years contests in intermediate. Pilot one’s first round scored a raw score of 350 and 331, his average raw score was 340.5 (he won the round). Pilot two’s raw score for round one was 338 and 324.5, his average raw score was 331.25, add in the 10% handicap and it becomes 364.375. This moves him to first place in the round by a high margin. Totally changes the results. Add to that the normalizing and it becomes almost insurmountable, considering pilot one outflew pilot two.<u></u><u></u></div>
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<div class="yiv7004707433MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt;">10% is a lot. sportsman has 18 maneuvers so a perfect flight has a possibility of 180 points in raw score, 10% of that is 18 points. A flight with all 9’s would be a raw score of 162, 10% is 16.2 points. That pretty much means a pilot without the 10% advantage has to beat the pilot with the advantage by 1 point per maneuver on all the maneuvers to beat him, if they tie more than 2 maneuvers, then the handicap beats him. 10% is a high factor to overcome.<u></u><u></u></div>
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