<div dir="ltr">I was thinking that 10% was a bit high. Could also do a lower % or Int than Sportsman.<div><br></div><div>John, I hope the idea of any of these rules proposals is NOT to allow the lesser pilot to win!</div><div>We just are talking about leveling the playing field to account for equipment.</div></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 3:32 PM John Fuqua via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang="EN-US"><div class="gmail-m_-8488259759322444150WordSection1"><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">Monte<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="line-height:150%"><span style="font-size:11pt;line-height:150%;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)">I sort of arbitrarily picked 10%. Do the math and suggest a better number. Although I think the idea is that the newcomer should have a good chance of placing/winning even though he/she may not be the best pilot.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11pt;font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(31,73,125)"><u></u> <u></u></span></p><div><div style="border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(181,196,223);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif"> NSRCA-discussion [mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Monte Richard via NSRCA-discussion<br><b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 18, 2019 3:18 PM<br><b>To:</b> Monte Richard; General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] new rules proposals<u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">I just went into one of last years contests in intermediate. Pilot one’s first round scored a raw score of 350 and 331, his average raw score was 340.5 (he won the round). Pilot two’s raw score for round one was 338 and 324.5, his average raw score was 331.25, add in the 10% handicap and it becomes 364.375. This moves him to first place in the round by a high margin. Totally changes the results. Add to that the normalizing and it becomes almost insurmountable, considering pilot one outflew pilot two.<u></u><u></u></p><div id="gmail-m_-8488259759322444150AppleMailSignature"><p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><br>On Jan 18, 2019, at 2:58 PM, Monte Richard <<a href="mailto:mrichard@compassengineering.com" target="_blank">mrichard@compassengineering.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">Add in the Kfactors and in Sportsman the total raw score can be 250 making the 10% handicap 25 points. <u></u><u></u></p><div id="gmail-m_-8488259759322444150AppleMailSignature"><p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><br>On Jan 18, 2019, at 2:28 PM, Monte Richard via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt">10% is a lot. sportsman has 18 maneuvers so a perfect flight has a possibility of 180 points in raw score, 10% of that is 18 points. A flight with all 9’s would be a raw score of 162, 10% is 16.2 points. That pretty much means a pilot without the 10% advantage has to beat the pilot with the advantage by 1 point per maneuver on all the maneuvers to beat him, if they tie more than 2 maneuvers, then the handicap beats him. 10% is a high factor to overcome.<u></u><u></u></p><div id="gmail-m_-8488259759322444150AppleMailSignature"><p class="MsoNormal">Sent from my iPhone<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12pt"><br>On Jan 18, 2019, at 2:15 PM, Daniel Underkofler via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">John, <u></u><u></u></p><div><p class="MsoNormal"> I think you've got a wording problem in your -05 proposal.<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">You say: 10% when "length/width DOES exceed 71in"<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">I think you meant: 10% when" length AND width DO NOT exceed 71in"<u></u><u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p></div><div><p class="MsoNormal">Dan<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class="MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 6:46 AM John Fuqua via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p></div><blockquote style="border-top:none;border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:1pt solid rgb(204,204,204);padding:0in 0in 0in 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0in"><div><div><p class="MsoNormal">FYI for all.<u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p><p class="MsoNormal">There are 3 new rules proposals on the AMA website. 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