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     I do not like the idea of rules changes.  they take too long to accomplish and would be cumbersome to live with for 2 years if we decide to undo it.  I do like the idea of CD's at their discretion allowing the sportsman class to become a more of "run what
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<div class="" style="word-wrap:break-word; line-break:after-white-space">Personally, I’d think a discussion  of this is worthwhile, I tend to think that  through Intermediate - for planes that are 6s / 65” wing or less (Such as the 62” Acuity, Tower Kaos, Mytho
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 just go all out and make an unlimited class, no restrictions other than safety. Any aircraft or technology is legal and fly the same schedule and judging </span><br class="" style="font-family:Helvetica; font-size:12px; font-style:normal; font-variant-caps:normal; font-weight:normal; letter-spacing:normal; text-align:start; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spacing:0px; text-decoration:none">
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<b class="">From:</b><span class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" class="" style="color:purple; text-decoration:underline">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>><span class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On
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We already allow anything in Sportsman, this can include gyros. But not in intermediate, this is where we learn to<span class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span><em class=""><span class="" style="font-family:Calibri,sans-serif">fly</span></em><span class="x_Apple-converted-space"> </span>the
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On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 9:25 AM tim pritchett via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" class="" style="color:purple; text-decoration:underline">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:</div>
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<span class="" style="font-size:10pt; font-family:Arial,sans-serif">On the additional subject of gyros/stabilization use in pattern, we posted a Poll on the D2 facebook page asking:</span></div>
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<span class="" style="font-size:10pt; font-family:Arial,sans-serif">My comment would be that Intermediate is too competitive for this, and we should/could restrict gyros to Sportsman only in a proposal.  Club is not an AMA class, so we can already do anything
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