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<DIV>I have seen the FMS Olympus flown competitively in Advanced so “cheap”
competitive equipment is available.</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org>james woodward via NSRCA-discussion</A>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 31, 2018 11:10 AM</DIV>
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to agree of course. Pattern or IMac is comparatively inexpensive to enter
and engage at a local level.
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<DIV>It is “expensive” in practice time and dedication required to learn and
improve, because it is not an easy endeavor. </DIV>
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<DIV>Jim <BR><BR>
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<DIV dir=ltr><BR>On Dec 31, 2018, at 10:43 AM, Tjpritchett via NSRCA-discussion
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<DIV dir=ltr>I just finished my epic, and of the other hobbies I’ve had over
the years, pattern flying still way cheaper to equip. than say for
bass-fishing, motorcycling, hunting, car customizing, etc. our suppliers have
to make some money. If someone were to come up with a $200 foam 2M airframe
though, I’d get one or two.<BR><BR>
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<DIV><BR>On Dec 31, 2018, at 9:43 AM, Charlie Barrera via NSRCA-discussion
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<DIV>I feel the same as you guys Randy and Jason. I could throw a lot of
money at my sport but it still doesn’t make me fly any better! Lol! I enjoy
the friendships, the common interests, and I’m not just boring holes in the
sky! It’s a great pass time and hobby. ...Charlie<BR><BR>
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<DIV dir=ltr><BR>On Dec 31, 2018, at 8:32 AM, Randy Forbus via
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face="Calibri, sans-serif"><B>From:</B> Randy Forbus
<<A>rforbus@hotmail.com</A>><BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, December 31,
2018 1:27 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Jas S via NSRCA-discussion; Jas
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discussion Jason, any hobby or sport has a price tag, like golf it can get
expensive, I never got into playing but I can see the fun in it. I do have
motorcycles that hobby can get pricey too. You have to pick your poison on
how you want to spend your hard earned dollars, and R/C in general is the
least expensive, I don't need top of the line stuff , but I don't fly junk
either, top of the line not going to make me fly any better or worse, I
just enjoy the hobby and the friends I've made over the years doing
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<<A>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>> on behalf of Jas S
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<DIV class=PlainText>There’s always been talk about how expensive pattern
is. All disciplines and hobbies are expensive, it’s just a choice one
makes as to how much they want to spend. I’ve not had a ‘top of the line
$$$$’ model since I was a teen when I wasn’t paying for my planes. Back
then I was lucky enough to get the best planes on the market. Ten Plus
planes back then were as good as the Yang/Oxai planes of today, and
relative cost was about the same. Since being on my own, I’ve had more
average planes, price point at least. Sponsorship allows me to outfit my
planes with what I consider some of the best equipment, but even then I
don’t bling out my planes at every turn.<BR><BR>Example, Acuity set-up
from the 2017 Nats in Blytheville, AR:<BR>Plane: AJ Acuity $949<BR>Motor:
AJ 5230-20P $260<BR>OS/Futaba ESC: $300 I think<BR>Battery: ThunderPower
6000’s $220<BR>Servos: Futaba SBUS, 173’s, 171’s & 175 $950 now
🤭<BR>Receiver: Futaba 7006 $100 now<BR>Falcon Spinner and Prop: $160
<BR>Total works out to about: $2939<BR><BR>Most hardware is stock from the
kit. Linkages, tail wheel assembly, sticky velcro hook side, axles,
wheels. I changed the cowl screws, motor mounting screws (shorter) and
velcro strap for the battery.<BR><BR>I could have used, and not hurt my
performance any, this equipment:<BR>Futaba 9650’s, 9151’s & 9155
($430) and saved -$520<BR>Futaba 617 receiver ($94) and saved
-$6<BR>Castle 80a ESC ($145) and saved -$155<BR>Gator spinner ($18) and
saved -$42<BR>APC prop ($44) and saved -$56<BR>Power Unlimited 5800’s
($186) and saved $34<BR>Shulman Aviation 6v regulator ($20) +$20<BR>Total
saved: $658<BR><BR>So my Acuity set-up could be done for just about $2144.
This is assuming you have NONE of the stuff to put in a 2m sized
plane.<BR><BR>Now my Epic set-up from the 2018 Muncie, IN Nats is a
different price point:<BR>CA Model Epic $2780 (Evo price, I think Epic +
was less)<BR>Brenner Contra: $1000 last year<BR>Kontronic Motor:
$500<BR>Add $100 for a 2nd Falcon prop<BR>Subtract $60 for the Falcon
spinner<BR>Futaba servos/receiver, ThunderPower batteries and OS/Futaba
ESC are the same prices as Acuity. <BR><BR>I usually use 2mm carbon rod
for pushrods, Du-Bro/Central Hobbies/F3AU links, MPI 2.25
wheels.<BR><BR>Total around $6000<BR><BR>Again, using equipment that’s not
‘top of the line’, I can save about $2400. Most of the difference from the
Acuity savings is swapping the contra for a Himax set-up.<BR><BR>And the
Yang/Oxai you can add another $~2500 to the total for a top-shelf
set-up.<BR><BR>All this being said, the BEST deals for a newbie to pattern
are:<BR>Any sport/pattern capable plane they are comfortable
flying.<BR>Any second hand pattern plane they can afford.<BR>A good friend
with a spare plane they will loan you 😁<BR><BR>Have a safe Happy New Year
to everyone and always land wheels down 😉<BR><BR>Jason<BR>Jas
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