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<DIV>I think I’m gonna go practice while you guys hash this out.... then come
home and put some finishing touches on my new EVO.</DIV>
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<DIV>Smooth FLying Ya’ll</DIV>
<DIV>Merry Christmas</DIV>
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<DIV style="font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org>Tony Frackowiak via NSRCA-discussion</A>
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<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 23, 2018 11:44 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=cliff357b@gmail.com>Cliff Bradford</A> ; <A
title=nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org>General pattern discussion</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Election</DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<DIV>Please explain why any counting of the votes was even done prior to the
close of voting. Also, I never received any information that the vote was close.
Right there it is improper as the K-Factor is supposed to be the only “official”
form of communication to the entire membership. <BR><BR>
<DIV id=AppleMailSignature>Tony Frackowiak </DIV>
<DIV><BR>On Dec 23, 2018, at 8:56 AM, Cliff Bradford via NSRCA-discussion
<<A>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>> wrote:<BR><BR></DIV>
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<DIV>If and only if the Board members met in secret and discussed the election
I could see a issue that the election possibly wasn’t fair and it could be
concluded that it was tainted, </DIV></DIV>
<DIV>But that isn’t what happened!!! </DIV>
<DIV>Any member worthy of a position in the nsrca is following the election,
it’s not a secret, EVERYONE KNOWS ITS CLOSE. The discussion during a
board meeting that results were close and might require a runoff is/was made
public. Because the discussion was made public I see no issue or unfair
advantage to any member.The Board can’t change anyone’s vote. </DIV>
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<DIV>And By the Way : </DIV>
<DIV>MERRY CHRISTMAS!!!</DIV>
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<DIV dir=ltr>On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 9:40 AM Vogel, Peter
<<A>Peter_Vogel@intuit.com</A>> wrote:<BR></DIV>
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<DIV style="DIRECTION: ltr">I would agree with you if that were the case
Dave, but...</DIV>
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<DIV style="DIRECTION: ltr">Disclaimer: I was not at the board meeting in
question however...</DIV>
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<DIV style="DIRECTION: ltr">If the knowledge that “the vote is very close”
had been kept secret to the board, THEN we would have an ethics issue as it
would allow the incumbent candidate to sway things. However, the
action the board took was to tell *everyone* via this list, district lists,
AND Facebook “the vote is close, voting closes on Dec 31st” to encourage
participation of the entire membership. In my mind that’s not trying
to sway the vote as it is telling everyone the same thing, regardless of
which candidate they support. </DIV></DIV>
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pattern discussion'; 'Larry Diamond'<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
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<P class=MsoNormal>If one candidate is aware of the vote count, and another
candidate is not aware of the vote count, is that fair? Does one
candidate have an advantage?</P>
<P class=MsoNormal> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>If one candidate has an unfair advantage due to
structural administrative process/error…..the election is tainted.</P>
<P class=MsoNormal> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal>Regards,</P>
<P class=MsoNormal><BR>Dave</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B>From:</B> NSRCA-discussion <<A
target=_blank>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>> <B>On Behalf
Of </B>Cliff Bradford via NSRCA-discussion<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December
23, 2018 10:25 AM<BR><B>To:</B> General pattern discussion <<A
target=_blank>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>>; Larry Diamond <<A
target=_blank>ldiamond@diamondrc.com</A>><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re:
[NSRCA-discussion] Election</P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>There are only 410 nsrca members, voting electronically
assures you must be logged in and can only vote once. I’m sure any mail in
ballots will be verified for membership and authenticity. As long as we
don’t receive 411 or more ballots I see no issue. </P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>I think it is the boards duty to keep track of the
election process. To think that it’s possibe to sway the election by knowing
its a close election is silly. In fact it may incourage a higher
participation percentage and that is all good. </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>The board cannot change the ballots.</P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>We are a very small group and getting smaller because of
things like this. I’m good with the election as it stands, if the board
caves to the peer pressure and tosses this one, it would not change my vote.
Would it change yours? That would be more damaging than the board
discussion about how close the election was. </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Perhaps we should contact the FBI to investigate any
possible consequences!!!</P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Dec 23, 2018 at 8:07 AM Larry Diamond via
NSRCA-discussion <<A
target=_blank>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>> wrote:</P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Almost feels like a
lynching of the election.</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">If the real time vote
tallies were not compromised, would everyone still think the Election
should be voided? I would not. However, we may still have an integrity or
ethics issue the BoD needs to deal with it, if a BoD member made such a
comment as it is reckless to imply knowledge of the ongoing results. If it
was not a BoD member that made the comment, then freedom of speech
prevails and it’s a non-issue.</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">We need to know the facts.
The BoD needs to take control and investigate it. If the facts are that
the count was compromised, then the results should be voided and a new
voting period began.</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d">Best Regards,</SPAN></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN style="COLOR: #1f497d"></SPAN> </P>
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style='FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: #1f497d'>Larry
Diamond</SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B>From:</B> NSRCA-discussion [mailto:<A
target=_blank>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>] <B>On Behalf
Of </B>Ken Dunlap via NSRCA-discussion<BR><B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December
23, 2018 8:08 AM<BR><B>To:</B> David Harmon <<A
target=_blank>k6xyz@sbcglobal.net</A>>; General pattern discussion
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Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Election</P></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>+1</P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>This is wrong at so many levels. Let’s void this
election. You just don’t start tallying ballots before the election
closes. </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Ken Dunlap </P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="COLOR: black">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> NSRCA-discussion <<A
target=_blank>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>> on behalf
of David Harmon via NSRCA-discussion <<A
target=_blank>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>><BR><B>Sent:</B>
Saturday, December 22, 2018 11:07:03 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'General pattern
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16…..jeeeze…</SPAN></P>
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Harmon</SPAN></B></P>
<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN
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586</SPAN></B></P>
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5053</SPAN></B></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B>From:</B> NSRCA-discussion [<A
target=_blank>mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>] <B>On
Behalf Of </B>Jon Bruml via NSRCA-discussion<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday,
December 22, 2018 9:54 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Pete Cosky <<A
target=_blank>pcosky@comcast.net</A>>; Frackowiak Tony <<A
target=_blank>frackowiak@sbcglobal.net</A>>; General pattern discussion
<<A
target=_blank>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>><BR><B>Subject:</B>
Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Election</P></DIV></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Yes agreed </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>We will have to nullify the election and start a new
process </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Jonathan Bruml</P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Techstyles</P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><B><SPAN style="COLOR: black">From:</SPAN></B><SPAN
style="COLOR: black"> NSRCA-discussion <<A
target=_blank>nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</A>> on behalf
of Pete Cosky via NSRCA-discussion <<A
target=_blank>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>><BR><B>Sent:</B>
Saturday, December 22, 2018 7:52 PM<BR><B>To:</B> Frackowiak Tony; General
pattern discussion<BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Election
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<P class=MsoNormal>It may be the end of days because I agree with
Frak. </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>There is absolutely no reason why the data should have
been available let alone discussed. </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt">The big question now is how
do we recover? </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><BR>On Dec 22, 2018, at
9:52 PM, Frackowiak Tony via NSRCA-discussion <<A
target=_blank>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</A>> wrote:</P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>I’m sorry that you don’t see the impropriety here.
You have an incumbent officer running for re-election able to see just
how close the election is and then being able to drum up more votes for
himself. </P>
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<P class=MsoNormal>This election is now tainted. No one should be able
to see the vote tally before the voting period has ended. The election
should be nullified, the party or parties involved in releasing the vote
tally prior to the conclusion of voting should be censured and removed
from the process. The election should be held again and the voting
results sent to an outside party. After the end of their normal term no
decisions should be made by the BOD until a proper election can be held
and the newly elected officers installed.</P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Should we as NSRCA members not be allowed a fair
election?</P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal> </P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>Tony Frackowiak</P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal>On Dec 22, 2018, at 5:41 PM, Monte Richard <<A
target=_blank>mrichard@compassengineering.com</A>> wrote:</P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica",sans-serif'>The
discussion was centered around the fact that the voting was close to
encourage the district Vice Presidents to encourage the members in
their districts to cast their votes. It appears to have worked as this
election looks like it will have the highest voter turnout in NSRCA
history. Certainly a lot higher then the previous election which only
had a voter turnout of 12 members.</SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica",sans-serif'><BR>On Dec
22, 2018, at 6:09 PM, Tony Frackowiak via NSRCA-discussion <<A
target=_blank><SPAN
style="COLOR: purple">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrcaorg</SPAN></A>>
wrote:</SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica",sans-serif'>I was
looking at the minutes of the December 12th NSRCA BOD meeting.
During that meeting according to the minutes there was a discussion
about the current vote count in the election. </SPAN></P>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica",sans-serif'></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica",sans-serif'>Isn’t
voting open until the end of the month? And isn’t there a
longer time for mailed in ballots to be received? Why are the votes
being tallied and discussed by the Board before the end of the
voting period?</SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica",sans-serif'></SPAN> </P></DIV>
<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica",sans-serif'>That is
highly unethical and smacks of voting fraud. At the very least it
sounds like an attempt to influence the results. </SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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<DIV>
<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
style='FONT-SIZE: 9pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica",sans-serif'>I will
await a reply. </SPAN></P></DIV>
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<P class=MsoNormal><SPAN
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Frackowiak </SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>
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