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<div style="direction:ltr">If you want to lay this at AMA leadership’s door (I, for one, do!) then lay it where it belongs: on Rich Hansen’s utter trust of the FAA and congress while they blow smoke up his *ss. He was originally our “advocate” in Washington
and recently got elected to AMA presidency while continuing a ridiculously weak and un-nuanced approach to the FAA reauthorization, focused entirely in getting the AMA recognized as a “CBO” rather than on having club fields designated as RC fly zones which
would have re-invigorated AMA membership and clubs and helped to educate the masses on safe flying, even of so-called “drones”.
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<p class="MsoNormal">I’d have to respectfully disagree. While the AMA has done well representing the current membership. They do nothing to entice virtually any form of the drone pilot population. I fly FPV racing/freestyle drones a lot more than pattern
because of the ease of going to the local park to fly vs finding a field that allows pattern flying (closest to me is about 30 miles away). None of my drone friends have any interest in the AMA, primarily because they don’t foster a rule set that is more
in line with the reality of park flying. And this new law does NOT affect my FPV flying at all, only pattern flying with the altitude limit, but it does address the stupid among us that insist on flying near airports and doing generally moronic stuff.
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<p class="MsoNormal">I think AMA’s voice is much weaker because they do not try to work with this new group of pilots.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">“<span style="color:#1F497D">What do you call a firm of lawyers buried up to their necks in concrete? A failure to estimate the proper amount of concrete.”</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> Larry Diamond <ldiamond@diamondrc.com> <br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 3, 2018 7:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Robert L. Beaubien <rob@koolsoft.com>; General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I would agree the bill was not read all the way through, page by page. That's politics, with horse trading a bill. Not much people can do regardless of how many of us call. They get a deal that betters their state or political status, they
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<p class="MsoNormal">Secondly, but not least. IMHO, it is not fair to state the AMA has failed us or has done a poor job. I believe they have done an outstanding job even through different leadership. This is not a new issue. It started on 9/11/2001. I feel
it is disrespectful to publicly chastise anyone unless there is direct knowledge of malpractice.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">We are reacting to results. If we wish to look at root-cause, we need to look at the industry, not AMA. Drones, park flyers, etc. Has put radio control in front of many more people than ever in the past. Then the few take issues and the
public cries out for regulation in a significantly higher number than AMA as a whole.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">FAA's involvement is a direct result of these new technologies that drive fear with the public. We've all read about abuse of drones with cameras, people flying recklessly. It is only a matter of time before regulations come to pass. I
100% would prefer the AMA work with the FAA than try to engage in a battle that can't be won.</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As my favorite comedian says, " That is only my opinion, I could be wrong" DM</p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:black">Date: 10/3/18 8:47 PM (GMT-06:00) </span>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="">I agree AMA has done a poor job handling this and a poor job of appealing to the millions of drone pilots to increase their ranks. But I also think the House and Senate have failed us here too. The final version of the FAA Reauth
Act was released and the house voted on it within 7 days. There is NO WAY in hell they could have read the entire 1200 + pages of the bill in that short of time, never mind digesting and analyzing the potential ramifications of everything in it.</p>
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Ken Dunlap via NSRCA-discussion<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 3, 2018 6:17 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> J <<a href="mailto:vellum2@bellsouth.net">vellum2@bellsouth.net</a>>; Jon Bruml <<a href="mailto:jon@techstyles.com">jon@techstyles.com</a>>; General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="">Joe what we need to do is kick AMA into overdrive. They are asleep at the switch. They have wasted the last two years and fiddled while Rome burned. They spent thousands of dollars a month on lobbying firms that have brought 0
results. Let’s start by holding AMA leadership accountable for their malpractice. They are not a charity they are a business and have blown their duty to protect this hobby. The very fact that the 400’ limit now exists is a testament to their malpractice.
So everyone responsible for advocacy on this issue should be sent packing. Next we hire advocates who know what they are doing. The AMA letter today was laughable and a sign of damage control and not reality. We lost a big battle and need to learn our lessons
and hold this who blew it accountable. Sorry, but flying at pattern contest or practicing pattern was never a danger to national security, package delivery, or the autonomous world. Such an easy message to our government was blown.
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<p class="MsoNormal" style=""><b><span style="color:black">From:</span></b><span style="color:black"> NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>> on behalf of J via NSRCA-discussion
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 3, 2018 8:35:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Jon Bruml; General pattern discussion<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Matt Finley ( F3A Moving Forward )</span> </p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Our job as the BoD is to help mobile our membership to do whatever we can to keep our hobby alive and well. At this point, the best thing we can do is to contact your local representatives in the house and your
senators and lobby for exceptions to the law that allow AMA sanctioned fields be exempt from the height limit. We will of course need to work with the AMA to keep our interests focused and productive. </p>
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On Oct 3, 2018, at 6:13 PM, Jon Bruml via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:</p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, October 3, 2018 3:09 PM<br>
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G</a> is uncontrolled airspace below 14,500 feet Mean Sea Level (MSL). Basically, anything far from an airport, unless it falls under Class E. I think much of the airspace in the U.S. more than 1200 feet Above Ground Level (AGL) is Class E. See
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<p><span style="font-size:12.0pt; font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif; color:#333333">We will have to wait until FAA issues a Notice of Proposed Rule Making (NPRM) to find out how they're going to regulate the new statutes, and whether there will be any waiver
process. The bill does seem to require some degree of training and certification for all unmanned aircraft operators (including models).</span></p>
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On Sep 27, 2018, at 8:01 AM, Vicente Bortone via NSRCA-discussion < <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">
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this would be a big change, but one that would be necessary if the FAA reauthorization bill comes in effect if it is passed by the senate..
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more sub up to 400' manuvers one could come up with that would still allow us to hone our skills, continue our passion, and still remain within the 400' cieling.
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