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<div> My immediate question was; doesn't the direct line of sight requirement affect all (or most) FPV flying? I'd think that drone (quadcopter) flying of all types would be the primary focus for changing the bill, since you don't really see fixed wings landing on the White House lawn, or on the 11 oclock news. That would surely be the purpose for corporate backing for company's like Amazon, who would want a clear sky for commercialization.</div>
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<div> It does seem like there's ups and downs to this - downs being the heavy favorite. As mentioned, 'potential' membership to clubs, SIG's, and the AMA has been lost for many years due to the ease of flying conveniently around homes, parks, or any open space (I bought a helicopter for this very purpose, in 1993!). That's the direction the technology has led. So if clubs/AMA get waivers somehow for flying fields, there will be a membership surge for all of us wanting to continue to fly, legally at least. I'm sure AMA has considered this. </div>
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<div> On the other hand, RC aviation will decline overall, as many casual flyers will just not bother with the hassle of going to a field. For a Christmas drone flyer, they won't know about any of this, and just continue flying in the driveway. </div>
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<div> Overall, it's certainly a negative for all RC aircraft. And, we all have work to do.<br>
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<div class="yiv9430555075MsoNormal">I’d have to respectfully disagree. While the AMA has done well representing the current membership. They do nothing to entice virtually any form of the drone pilot population. I fly FPV racing/freestyle drones a lot more than pattern
because of the ease of going to the local park to fly vs finding a field that allows pattern flying (closest to me is about 30 miles away). None of my drone friends have any interest in the AMA, primarily because they don’t foster a rule set that is more
in line with the reality of park flying. And this new law does NOT affect my FPV flying at all, only pattern flying with the altitude limit, but it does address the stupid among us that insist on flying near airports and doing generally moronic stuff.
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<div class="yiv9430555075MsoNormal">I would agree the bill was not read all the way through, page by page. That's politics, with horse trading a bill. Not much people can do regardless of how many of us call. They get a deal that betters their state or political status, they
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<div class="yiv9430555075MsoNormal">Secondly, but not least. IMHO, it is not fair to state the AMA has failed us or has done a poor job. I believe they have done an outstanding job even through different leadership. This is not a new issue. It started on 9/11/2001. I feel
it is disrespectful to publicly chastise anyone unless there is direct knowledge of malpractice.</div>
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<div class="yiv9430555075MsoNormal">We are reacting to results. If we wish to look at root-cause, we need to look at the industry, not AMA. Drones, park flyers, etc. Has put radio control in front of many more people than ever in the past. Then the few take issues and the
public cries out for regulation in a significantly higher number than AMA as a whole.</div>
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<div class="yiv9430555075MsoNormal">FAA's involvement is a direct result of these new technologies that drive fear with the public. We've all read about abuse of drones with cameras, people flying recklessly. It is only a matter of time before regulations come to pass. I
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<div class="yiv9430555075MsoNormal">I agree AMA has done a poor job handling this and a poor job of appealing to the millions of drone pilots to increase their ranks. But I also think the House and Senate have failed
us here too. The final version of the FAA Reauth Act was released and the house voted on it within 7 days. There is NO WAY in hell they could have read the entire 1200 + pages of the bill in that short of time, never mind digesting and analyzing the potential
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<b>To:</b> J <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:vellum2@bellsouth.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:vellum2@bellsouth.net">vellum2@bellsouth.net</a>>; Jon Bruml <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:jon@techstyles.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:jon@techstyles.com">jon@techstyles.com</a>>; General pattern discussion <<a rel="noopener noreferrer" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br clear="none">
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<div class="yiv9430555075MsoNormal">Joe what we need to do is kick AMA into overdrive. They are asleep at the switch. They have wasted the last two years and fiddled while Rome burned. They spent thousands of dollars
a month on lobbying firms that have brought 0 results. Let’s start by holding AMA leadership accountable for their malpractice. They are not a charity they are a business and have blown their duty to protect this hobby. The very fact that the 400’ limit now
exists is a testament to their malpractice. So everyone responsible for advocacy on this issue should be sent packing. Next we hire advocates who know what they are doing. The AMA letter today was laughable and a sign of damage control and not reality. We
lost a big battle and need to learn our lessons and hold this who blew it accountable. Sorry, but flying at pattern contest or practicing pattern was never a danger to national security, package delivery, or the autonomous world. Such an easy message to our
government was blown. </div>
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in the house and your senators and lobby for exceptions to the law that allow AMA sanctioned fields be exempt from the height limit. We will of course need to work with the AMA to keep our interests focused and productive. </div>
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G</a> is uncontrolled airspace below 14,500 feet Mean Sea Level (MSL). Basically, anything far from an airport, unless it falls under Class E. I think much of the airspace in the U.S. more than 1200 feet Above Ground Level (AGL) is Class E. See
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process. The bill does seem to require some degree of training and certification for all unmanned aircraft operators (including models).</span></div>
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<div class="yiv9430555075MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span>Even though this would put a huge impact on large vertical manuvers, tall centered manuvers, or tall turn-around manuvers, there
are as many, or even more sub up to 400' manuvers one could come up with that would still allow us to hone our skills, continue our passion, and still remain within the 400' cieling.
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<div class="yiv9430555075MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span>Yes... Manuvers would need to be modified and even quite a few removed completely to stay within the limits. However talking
in "future" speak, in my eyes, and opinion, it would be crazy, and yes I will say it ludicrous to just say " With the 400' cieling limit, I guess we can no longer fly Precision Aerobatics "
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<div class="yiv9430555075MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span>This subject the past few days ever since learning about this new issue, it has weighed very heavy on my mind, as I'm sure it
has all of you, and I know as a group we can come up with a positive outcome from all of this, and continue our passion.<br clear="none">
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