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</head><body><p style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: #333333;">Sure glad you weren't hurt, Vince!! While a single incident is not scientific evidence, when you put all of them together, they add up to indication that such a requirement is needed.</p><p style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: #333333;"><br></p><p style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: #333333;">A number of years ago, a local showed up at our field with cuts and stitches up his leg. He said an electric plane "came to life" in his shop and chased him up his leg. So, it doesn't have to happen at the field.</p><p style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: #333333;"><br></p><p style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: #333333;">A lot of times, the exact cause is not discernible after the fact. If a pilot knows the state of his electric power system, that doesn't mean other in the area know, unless there is an external device indicating the state.</p><p style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: #333333;"><br></p><div class="io-ox-signature"><p style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;" class="default-style"><span class="signature-truncate"><span class="signature-truncate"><span class="signature-truncate"><span class="signature-truncate"><span class="signature-truncate"><span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'; font-size: 12px;"> <strong><em>Phil Spelt, AMA 1294, Scientific Leader Member<br>SPA L-18, Board Member, KCRC Emeritus<br>Oliver Springs, TN (865) 435-1476v (865) 604-0541c</em></strong></span></span></span></span></span></span></p></div><blockquote type="cite">On September 26, 2018 at 10:38 AM Vicente Bortone <vincebrc@gmail.com> wrote: <br> <br><div dir="ltr">This is real experience. About 3-4 years ago I was getting ready to fly with another friend. Both of our planes were already in the pits and we just were talking before starting the day. A pilot came with an electric plane and parked between us. He left it there and decided that he needs to go and get something. About a minute later his plane came to live suddenly and took us from the pits. It starting to do an small loop and was coming directly toward us. It was so fast that my friend said "take cover". We were lucky that the plane crashed in front of us and there were no more pilots flying or around. It was so fast that I didn't have time to move an inch and could have hit us easily. The plane didn't have an arming switch outside so there was no way for us to know if was armed. The owner came and we never were able to figure out what really happened. <div><br></div><div>I think makes sense to put together a formal request that will require external disconnect outside the electric powered planes. It is easy to justify since is already a requirement of the National Electrical Code and OSHA. Anyone out there wants to put together a draft. I will help to signed since I am a CD. </div><div><br></div><div>!Gone Flying! </div><div><br clear="all"><div><div dir="ltr" class="ox-ba9686f173-gmail_signature">Vicente "Vince" Bortone</div></div><br></div></div><br><div class="ox-ba9686f173-gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 7:41 PM Vogel, Peter via NSRCA-discussion < <a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote: <br></div><blockquote><div><div id="ox-ba9686f173-m_-1414834735957943557compose-container" style="direction: ltr;"><div><div><div style="direction: ltr;">Rule says you must disarm the plane before bringing into the pits, does not say how. That can mean take off canopy and unplug. I’ve moved to using a Jeti anti-spark bullet in-line on the red side of the battery-esc connection with the bullet routed to the outside of the plane. Quick, simple, foolproof. Anti-spark prevents carbon buildup on the bullets.</div></div><div><br></div><div class="ox-ba9686f173-m_-1414834735957943557acompli_signature">Get <a href="https://aka.ms/o0ukef" target="_blank" rel="noopener">Outlook for iOS</a></div></div></div><hr style="display: inline-block; width: 98%;"><div id="ox-ba9686f173-m_-1414834735957943557divRplyFwdMsg" dir="ltr"><span style="font-size: 11pt; color: #000000; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;"><strong>From:</strong> NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" rel="noopener">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>> on behalf of Phil Spelt via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" rel="noopener">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br> <strong>Sent:</strong> Tuesday, September 25, 2018 5:34:02 PM<br> <strong>To:</strong> General pattern discussion<br> <strong>Subject:</strong> [NSRCA-discussion] Arming Device for electric airplanes</span><div> </div></div><div><p class="ox-ba9686f173-m_-1414834735957943557default-style" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;">Guys, what is the current status of arming devices in NSRCA for you electric airplanes? Does anyone know what the AMA says about arming devices -- I can't find my way around the new web site yet, and this is the easy way out! lol</p><p class="ox-ba9686f173-m_-1414834735957943557default-style" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;"><br></p><p class="ox-ba9686f173-m_-1414834735957943557default-style" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;">Thanks,</p><p class="ox-ba9686f173-m_-1414834735957943557default-style" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;"><br></p><div class="ox-ba9686f173-m_-1414834735957943557io-ox-signature"><p class="ox-ba9686f173-m_-1414834735957943557default-style" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;"><span class="ox-ba9686f173-m_-1414834735957943557signature-truncate"><span class="ox-ba9686f173-m_-1414834735957943557signature-truncate"><span class="ox-ba9686f173-m_-1414834735957943557signature-truncate"><span class="ox-ba9686f173-m_-1414834735957943557signature-truncate"><span class="ox-ba9686f173-m_-1414834735957943557signature-truncate"><span style="font-family: 'Arial Black'; font-size: 12px;"><strong><em>Phil Spelt, AMA 1294, Scientific Leader Member<br> SPA L-18, Board Member, KCRC Emeritus<br> Oliver Springs, TN (865) 435-1476v (865) 604-0541c</em></strong></span></span></span></span></span></span></p></div><p class="ox-ba9686f173-m_-1414834735957943557default-style" style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica,arial,sans-serif; color: #333333;"> <br></p></div></div>_______________________________________________ <br> NSRCA-discussion mailing list <br> <a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" rel="noopener">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a> <br> <a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank" rel="noopener">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a></blockquote></div></blockquote></body></html>