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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>In the past when numbers were high you only had to work/judge one day. But if you worked additional times you were paid. I think it was $30 per additional work day. Maybe we could consider something similar.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>However we also had FAI pilots scheduled to judge on the 3<sup>rd</sup> prelim day who did not make the FAI semi finals and left. In the past they would lose the highest round. But if they did not make the semi finals there was no incentive to do their duty. We need to work on that aspect. Maybe a public shaming would work.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Mike Mueller via NSRCA-discussion<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, July 22, 2018 7:16 PM<br><b>To:</b> Bob Kane; General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] NATS Judging workload, on my soapbox<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> Bob<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> Thanks for pointing this out.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> The judging issues surfaced and left a number of participants very unhappy. It's not the same old same old as the numbers have changed.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> If not addressed I feel it will contribute to and further the low attendances.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> Mike Mueller<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>President of <a href="http://f3aunlimited.com/" target="_blank"><span style='color:#1155CC'>F3AUnlimited.com</span></a>, <a href="http://gator-rc.com/" target="_blank"><span style='color:#1155CC'>Gator-RC.com</span></a>, and <span style='color:blue'>Caimandist.com</span> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>Exclusive North American Distributor for TopRCModel, BJ Craft, CA Model, and the new An Hui Yang F3A (Formally Oxai) Model Airplanes.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>Check out our all-new Gator Power Pack and Power Unlimited X HV brands of Lipo batteries.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:9.5pt'>Exclusive sales agent for the CRP V4 Contra Rotating Propeller units.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:9.5pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:9.5pt'><a href="http://f3aunlimited.com/" target="_blank"><span style='color:#1155CC'>F3AUnlimited.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:9.5pt'> <a href="tel:(800)%20591-2875" target="_blank"><span style='color:#1155CC'>800 591 2875</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:9.5pt'><a href="http://gator-rc.com/" target="_blank"><span style='color:#1155CC'>Gator-RC.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:9.5pt'> <a href="tel:(800)%20380-9373" target="_blank"><span style='color:#1155CC'>800 380 9373</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:9.5pt'><a href="http://caimandist.com/" target="_blank"><span style='color:#1155CC'>Caimandist.com</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:9.5pt'> <a href="tel:(800)%20803-3658" target="_blank"><span style='color:#1155CC'>800 803 3658</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:9.5pt'><a href="http://www.TopRCModel-USA.com" target="_blank">www.TopRCModel-USA.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-size:9.5pt'><a href="http://www.BJCraft-USA.com" target="_blank">www.BJCraft-USA.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></blockquote></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 7:06 PM, Bob Kane via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>First off, let me say thank you to Al Glenn and Peter Vogel for their heroic efforts at the 2018 NATS. Unless you wear the shirt you have no idea how tough the job is.<br><br>I heard more than once last week "I judged once, I should not have to judge". Lets look at the numbers:<br><br>2018 NATS pilots (and potential judges):<br><br>FAI 32<br>Masters 23<br>Advanced 11<br>Intermediate 6<br><br>72 total pilots<br><br>Judging requirements<br><br>FAI Prelims<br><br>3 Judges, 2 lines, 2 sites = 12/day, 24 judges for 2 days. <br><br>FAI Semis<br><br>5 Judges, 1 line, 2 sites = 10 judges<br><br>FAI Finals<br><br>24 judges<br><br>FAI, total of 58 judges needed<br><br>Masters Prelims<br><br>3 judges, 2 lines, 2 sites = 12/day, 36 for 3 days.<br><br>Masters Finals<br><br>5 judges, 3 lines 15<br><br>Masters, total of 51 judges neeed.<br><br>Intermediate 2 judges, 2 lines 3 days 12 judges<br>Advanced 2 judges, 2 lines 3 days 12 judges<br><br>133 Total judging assignments during the week.<br><br>Assuming you do not use Intermediate pilots as judges, simple math would show 133 assignments / 66 judges = 2.01 judging assignments/pilot.<br><br>However, number is reduced by the pilots actually flying in the Semi and Final rounds, so the number is more than 2.<br><br>People leave during he week, further reducing the pool.<br><br>I know people who judged 4+ times during the week. The only thing I can say is thank you for your service.<br><br>This should not be the NATS Event Director's problem. It is ours to solve. <br><br>I would be happy to volunteer on a committee commissioned by the NSRCA to look at this and come up with a plan for the 2019 NATS.<br><br>Off my soapbox.<br><br>Bob Kane <a href="mailto:getterflash@yahoo.com">getterflash@yahoo.com</a><br>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></body></html>