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12.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans MS"'>Remember the judges group that we had back
in the day, the USPJA or something like it?? Maybe it's getting time to
think about bringing them back. :) No easy answer for this problem
which may cause even lower attendance down the road. BTW, the
Intermediates all sat in the judges chairs for Advanced, including one young
lad who was actually signed up for Sportsman but jumped up to Intermediate
because he was the only entrant in Sportsman. He actually judged 2 rounds.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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[mailto:<st1:PersonName w:st="on">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</st1:PersonName>]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Mike Mueller via
NSRCA-discussion<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Sunday, July 22, 2018 7:16
PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> Bob Kane; <st1:PersonName
w:st="on">General pattern discussion</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
NATS Judging workload, on my soapbox</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> The judging issues surfaced and left a number of participants
very unhappy. It's not the same old same old as the numbers have changed.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'> If not addressed I feel it will contribute to and further the low
attendances.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>On Sun, Jul 22, 2018 at 7:06 PM, Bob Kane via NSRCA-discussion <<a
href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>First off, let me say thank you to Al Glenn and <st1:PersonName w:st="on">Peter
Vogel</st1:PersonName> for their heroic efforts at the 2018 NATS. Unless you
wear the shirt you have no idea how tough the job is.<br>
<br>
I heard more than once last week "I judged once, I should not have to
judge". Lets look at the numbers:<br>
<br>
2018 NATS pilots (and potential judges):<br>
<br>
FAI 32<br>
Masters 23<br>
Advanced 11<br>
Intermediate 6<br>
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72 total pilots<br>
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Judging requirements<br>
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FAI Prelims<br>
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3 Judges, 2 lines, 2 sites = 12/day, 24 judges for 2 days. <br>
<br>
FAI Semis<br>
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5 Judges, 1 line, 2 sites = 10 judges<br>
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FAI Finals<br>
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24 judges<br>
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FAI, total of 58 judges needed<br>
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Masters Prelims<br>
<br>
3 judges, 2 lines, 2 sites = 12/day, 36 for 3 days.<br>
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Masters Finals<br>
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5 judges, 3 lines 15<br>
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Masters, total of 51 judges neeed.<br>
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Intermediate 2 judges, 2 lines 3 days 12 judges<br>
Advanced 2 judges, 2 lines 3 days 12 judges<br>
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133 Total judging assignments during the week.<br>
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Assuming you do not use Intermediate pilots as judges, simple math would show
133 assignments / 66 judges = 2.01 judging assignments/pilot.<br>
<br>
However, number is reduced by the pilots actually flying in the Semi and Final
rounds, so the number is more than 2.<br>
<br>
People leave during he week, further reducing the pool.<br>
<br>
I know people who judged 4+ times during the week. The only thing I can say is
thank you for your service.<br>
<br>
This should not be the NATS Event Director's problem. It is ours to
solve. <br>
<br>
I would be happy to volunteer on a committee commissioned by the NSRCA to look
at this and come up with a plan for the 2019 NATS.<br>
<br>
Off my soapbox.<br>
<br>
Bob Kane <a href="mailto:getterflash@yahoo.com">getterflash@yahoo.com</a><br>
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