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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal>Please read the meeting minutes of November 8, 2012.  The bylaws as written do not specifically state electronic voting but were written generically enough to allow the board to make a decision on how to distribute ballots.  So if the board decides to use the website, then that’s what will happen.  Since a precedent was set a number of years ago (either by Eric Henderson or Lamar Blair), we’ve continued with using electronic voting since then.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana",sans-serif;color:#444752;background:white'>c. Ballots are to be distributed to the voting NSRCA members, whenever possible, by the end of November of the election year in a manner approved by the Board of Directors.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Why have you not complained about this in past years?  All of a sudden this is an issue now?<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org> on behalf of NSRCA List <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br><b>Reply-To: </b>"frackowiak@sbcglobal.net" <frackowiak@sbcglobal.net>, NSRCA List <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br><b>Date: </b>Thursday, December 7, 2017 at 9:40 AM<br><b>To: </b>NSRCA List <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br><b>Subject: </b>[NSRCA-discussion] Fwd: District Vice President Elections<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailOriginalBody">I have yet to hear anything about my requests made on the 5th.<o:p></o:p></a></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Tony Frackowiak<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Begin forwarded message:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica'>From: </span></b></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica'>Frackowiak Tony <</span></span><a href="mailto:frackowiak@sbcglobal.net"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica'>frackowiak@sbcglobal.net</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica'>></span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica'>Date: </span></b></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica'>December 5, 2017 5:48:21 PM PST</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica'>To: </span></b></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica'>Joe Walker <</span></span><a href="mailto:vellum2@bellsouth.net"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica'>vellum2@bellsouth.net</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica'>>, General pattern discussion <</span></span><a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica'>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica'>></span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><b><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:Helvetica'>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] District Vice President Elections</span></b></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Please forward me the updated bylaws that allow electronic voting. Because the ones marked as January 2013 that are on the website now do not even mention it. If that is what was desired then that is how it should be described in the bylaws. Also, please forward to me the email that was sent to "all" members about voting as I never received an email directly from the NSRCA. Just through this list which is definitely not to "all" members. Also, the bylaws do not allow for "ballots" sent in by membership that were not sent to the members first.<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>The organization must select it's officers by the method outlined in the bylaws. Not by some vague interpretation of the bylaws.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Tony Frackowiak<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>On Dec 5, 2017, at 2:30 PM, Joe Walker via NSRCA-discussion wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512143388172_742704"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Thanks Jon, Jon and Peter for the input.  It's spot on and reflects how we are supposed to be functioning as an organization (electronically... Especially since most of the discussions happen on this forum, which is an electronic format).  The discussion to mail out ballots to members in districts with a contested election (D7 in this case) would be an extra effort beyond that which is required by the Bylaws.  The current district VP's where a vote would occur could certainly reach out to the local members and determine if a paper ballot is required and or desired.  Certainly if there is not a good reason to spend the extra money, let's not just waste our resources.</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512143388172_742704"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512143388172_742704"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Tony,</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512143388172_742704"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Does this adequately address your concerns?  If not, I don't think it's too much to ask to shift the deadline for the vote just a few weeks to accommodate snail mail for D7 folks that desire a paper ballot.</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512143388172_742704"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512143388172_742704"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Thanks!</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512143388172_742704"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512143388172_742704"><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Joe Walker</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 2:15 PM, Peter Vogel <</span></span><a href="mailto:vogel.peter@gmail.com"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif'>vogel.peter@gmail.com</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>> wrote:</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><div><div id=yiv5547406970><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>As a more complete answer, as the NSRCA website is available to *all* members, and notification of the ballot being available is e-mailed to *all* members that constitutes "distribution" from a legal perspective (this has been legally tested by a variety of Homeowners association lawsuits in the past decade).  We are required to also accept (at the secretary's postal address) a snail-mail letter from a member indicating their vote.  The secretary would then validate the member's address and that they did not also vote online and count the paper "ballot".<o:p></o:p></span></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>But as the NSRCA membership as a whole, given the technical nature of our hobby, tends to be more technically savvy, electronic voting is the norm and I am unaware of anyone taking the paper option since we moved to enable electronic balloting.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Paper ballots to the whole membership would be a huge expense from a budget perspective, which is why the bylaws were amended several years back to enable a primarily electronic vote.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>It's also *much* easier to audit the results as every member must login to vote and we capture the date and time of their vote and ensure only one vote is cast per member.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Peter+<o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Jon Bruml via NSRCA-discussion <</span></span><a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span style='mso-bookmark:_M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'mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><br><b>Cc:</b> </span></span><a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue"'>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca. org</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><br><span class=yiv5547406970><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] District Vice President Elections</span></span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Tony,<o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><br>If this helps, I know that when I was president, the membership voted to take out of the bylaws the specific requirement for mailed ballots. The bylaws allow for distribution of ballots by a manner ok'd by the BoD. The website posting of the election and casting votes electronically was considered distribution of the ballots. Subsequent votes were primarily done via the website, as I recall.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Jon<o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><hr size=0 width="100%" noshade style='color:#999999' align=center></span></span></div></div><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#999999'>On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 Frackowiak Tony via NSRCA-discussion <</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span><a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"'>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca. org</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:#999999'>> wrote:</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div><div id="yiv5547406970m_-8925380197986766122AOLMsgPart_1.2_ff4101f9-3106-4d00-8d78-179118f4efa9"><div><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Joe,<o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div><div><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Thank you for the reply. <o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Please explain to me how website voting conforms to the wording of the Bylaws? Bylaws says that ballots are to be distributed to the voting NSRCA members. It also says in a manner approved by the BOD, but you still must distribute ballots. Voting on a website does not do that. <o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>In my opinion, according to the bylaws, the only valid voting is from ballots that have been sent out to the members and returned by them. If I am incorrect please explain.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Thanks!<o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Tony Frackowiak<o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div><div><div><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>On Dec 5, 2017, at 9:48 AM, Joe Walker wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div id="yiv5547406970m_-8925380197986766122yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512143388172_677411"><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Good morning Tony,<o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv5547406970m_-8925380197986766122yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512143388172_677413"><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>I appreciate your input!  Though the Bylaws do not specify a timeline for voting, nor a format for the ballots, we recognize that the spirit of the requirement is to be as inclusive as possible.  With that in mind, the BoD will also be sending out mailed ballots to those districts that have more than one person running for the DVP position.  If the timeline for the arrival of those ballots does not give adequate time for response prior to the end of the year, we will extend the deadline for receiving ballots to allow a full 30 days response time.  So, we are indeed following the bylaws with recognition that the suggested time has been shortened, which we are making accommodations to correct.<o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv5547406970m_-8925380197986766122yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512143388172_677413"><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> </span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv5547406970m_-8925380197986766122yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512143388172_677413"><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Now, go cast your vote!<o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv5547406970m_-8925380197986766122yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512143388172_677413"><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> </span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv5547406970m_-8925380197986766122yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512143388172_677413"><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Best,<o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv5547406970m_-8925380197986766122yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1512143388172_677413"><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Joe Walker, NSRCA President<o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> </span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div><div><div><div><div><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>On Tuesday, December 5, 2017 11:59 AM, Frackowiak Tony via NSRCA-discussion <</span></span><a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"'>nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca. org</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>> wrote:</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div><div><div id="yiv5547406970m_-8925380197986766122yiv3881958837"><div><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>How does this process agree with the NSRCA Bylaws as posted on the NSRCA website? Here they are,<o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div><div><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>e. Ballots are to be distributed to the voting NSRCA members, whenever possible, by the end of November of the election year in a manner approved by the Board of Directors.</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div><div><div><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Were ballots sent out to those on the districts with a contested election? If not, why not?<o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Tony Frackowiak<o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div><div><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div><div id="yiv5547406970m_-8925380197986766122yiv3881958837yqt00841"><div><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>On Dec 5, 2017, at 6:19 AM, Charlie Barrera via NSRCA-discussi <o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>on wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>Voting is now open for your respective District Vice President representative for the term years 2018-2019. Voting closes on December 31, 2017, at midnight.  It is open to all current NSRCA members in good standing. After logging in, follow the link on the NSRCA web site. Please vote. Results will be tallied and posted in mid January. Thank you.<br><br>…Charlie Barrera, Secretary, NSRCA<br>______________________________ _________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br></span></span><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"'>NSRCA-discussion@lists. nsrcaorg</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><br></span></span><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"'>http://lists.nsrca.org/ mailman/listinfo/nsrca- discussion</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div></div></div><div id="yiv5547406970m_-8925380197986766122yqt51296"><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>______________________________ _________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br></span></span><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"'>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca. org</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><br></span></span><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"'>http://lists.nsrca.org/ mailman/listinfo/nsrca- discussion</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div><div style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></span></p></div></div></div></div><div style='margin-bottom:6.75pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'>______________________________ _________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br>NSRCA-</span></span><a href="mailto:discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue"'>discussion@lists.nsrca. org</span></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica Neue";color:black'><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