<div dir="ltr">As a more complete answer, as the NSRCA website is available to *all* members, and notification of the ballot being available is e-mailed to *all* members that constitutes "distribution" from a legal perspective (this has been legally tested by a variety of Homeowners association lawsuits in the past decade).  We are required to also accept (at the secretary's postal address) a snail-mail letter from a member indicating their vote.  The secretary would then validate the member's address and that they did not also vote online and count the paper "ballot".<div><br></div><div>But as the NSRCA membership as a whole, given the technical nature of our hobby, tends to be more technically savvy, electronic voting is the norm and I am unaware of anyone taking the paper option since we moved to enable electronic balloting.</div><div><br></div><div>Paper ballots to the whole membership would be a huge expense from a budget perspective, which is why the bylaws were amended several years back to enable a primarily electronic vote.</div><div><br></div><div>It's also *much* easier to audit the results as every member must login to vote and we capture the date and time of their vote and ensure only one vote is cast per member.</div><div><br></div><div>Peter+</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 11:08 AM, Jon Bruml via NSRCA-discussion <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">





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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> NSRCA-discussion [mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank">nsrca-discussion-<wbr>bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jon Lowe via NSRCA-discussion<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 05, 2017 11:03 AM<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] District Vice President Elections<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
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If this helps, I know that when I was president, the membership voted to take out of the bylaws the specific requirement for mailed ballots. The bylaws allow for distribution of ballots by a manner ok'd by the BoD. The website posting of the election and casting
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt">Please explain to me how website voting conforms to the wording of the Bylaws? Bylaws says that ballots are to be distributed to the voting NSRCA members. It also says in a manner approved by the BOD, but you
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:6.75pt;background:white"><span style="font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">I appreciate your input!  Though the Bylaws do not specify a timeline for voting, nor a format for the ballots, we recognize that
 the spirit of the requirement is to be as inclusive as possible.  With that in mind, the BoD will also be sending out mailed ballots to those districts that have more than one person running for the DVP position.  If the timeline for the arrival of those ballots
 does not give adequate time for response prior to the end of the year, we will extend the deadline for receiving ballots to allow a full 30 days response time.  So, we are indeed following the bylaws with recognition that the suggested time has been shortened,
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 31, 2017, at midnight.  It is open to all current NSRCA members in good standing. After logging in, follow the link on the NSRCA web site. Please vote. Results will be tallied and posted in mid January. Thank you.<br>
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