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--></style></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Typically there are 20 judges at a WC. During the finals, 5 judges are used to judge the left turnarounds, 5 different judges judge the right turnarounds, and the 10 remaining judges judge the center maneuvers. It is a lot easier to judge unknowns when one has time to study the maneuver before judging it and can reflect on what one saw after it is complete – remember, a judge will have time to reflect on this because they aren’t judging every maneuver. When only 10 judges are used (as in Argentina), all the judges will judge ALL maneuvers so there is a lot less time for judges to think about what they just saw (or will see) unless they really know the sequence well.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='color:black'>From: </span></b><span style='color:black'>NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org> on behalf of NSRCA List <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br><b>Reply-To: </b>Jeff Worsham <jeffryworsham@gmail.com>, NSRCA List <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br><b>Date: </b>Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 11:20 AM<br><b>To: </b>"cahochhalter@yahoo.com" <cahochhalter@yahoo.com>, NSRCA List <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Zero Judges at WC's<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><a name="_MailOriginalBody"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Obviously I don’t know squat about the whole process, but was just wondering- if there’s a 10 judge panel, why can’t 2 of them be zero judges. I understand if running 2 lines, 5 judges per line, there would need to be 4 more judges paid for. But aren’t the final rounds flown on one line only with all 10 judges? If so, why can’t 2 of them be zero judges? </span><o:p></o:p></a></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><b><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>From: </span></b></span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:black'>NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org> on behalf of Charles Hochhalter via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br><b>Reply-To: </b>"cahochhalter@yahoo.com" <cahochhalter@yahoo.com>, General pattern discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br><b>Date: </b>Tuesday, November 14, 2017 at 12:12 PM<br><b>To: </b>"nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Zero Judges at WC's</span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>The cost to add zero judges would be around 4 -6 grand each unless you pulled from contestants... which probably wouldnt happen. <o:p></o:p></span></p><div id="yMail_cursorElementTracker_1510686702330"><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div id="ymail_android_signature"><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span><a href="https://overview.mail.yahoo.com/mobile/?.src=Android"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android</span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><blockquote style='margin-left:0in;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:15.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-family:Helvetica;color:#6D00F6'>On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 1:10 PM, Jeff Worsham via NSRCA-discussion</span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-family:Helvetica;color:#6D00F6'><nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org> wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div style='border:none;border-left:solid #6D00F6 1.0pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 15.0pt;margin-top:7.5pt'><div id=yiv6131312123><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span class=yiv6131312123><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>What would it take for FAI to require a minimum # of zero judges at future WC’s? IE: at least two designated zero judges required for every semi’s and finals round. With the increase in complexity of maneuvers in F and unknown sequences, sounds like the judging load may be exceeding what even the most experienced of judges can keep up with at a WC. On top of increased judging load, add poor visibility, poor conditions, etc and the chance for error goes up even more. </span></span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span class=yiv6131312123><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Jeff</span></span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br></span><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><br></span><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank"><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</span><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'></span></a><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'>_______________________________________________ NSRCA-discussion mailing list NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='mso-bookmark:_MailOriginalBody'><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>_______________________________________________ NSRCA-discussion mailing list NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</span></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></body></html>