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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I think I agree with Derek. As much as I would like Joseph to be an automatic invite I don't think he would qualify for the invite if he has aged out of Jr. status.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I don't see any ambiguity either. Rules are as written not what we wish they were. "in that category" seems pretty clear to me.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I guess the rules will be what the FAI officials say they are.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Dave<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> NSRCA-discussion [mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Kevin Young via NSRCA-discussion<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 13, 2017 3:18 PM<br><b>To:</b> General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] F3A World Result<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div id=divtagdefaultwrapper><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Derek, I know this may not be your intent but how I read the rule is basically as a two part statement with <o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>a) </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>The reigning Junior World or Junior Continental Champion has the right (subject to the approval of his National Airsports Control) to participate in the next World or Continental Championships in that category regardless of whether he qualifies for the national team or not, and provided that he will still be a junior pilot when the next World or Continental Championships are held</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>b) </span><u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>If he is not a member of the national team</span></u><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>, his score will not be considered in the team results. (I think the underlined section can be read as the catch to the wording of the rule)</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>The b portion allowing him to compete but not as an official Team participant like QuiQue did in Portugal.</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>my other thought is why on earth you would want to limit a young persons exposure to competition in an industry and sport that is severely lacking youth! </span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Kevin Young</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=2 width="98%" align=center></span></div><div id=divRplyFwdMsg><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>> on behalf of Derek Koopowitz via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, November 13, 2017 1:45 PM<br><b>To:</b> Don Ramsey; 'General pattern discussion'<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] F3A World Result</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>That is not the intent of the rule and I should know because I wrote it. Here is the rule:<br><br>d) The reigning Junior World or Junior Continental Champion has the right (subject to the approval of his National Airsports Control) to participate in the next World or Continental Championships in that category regardless of whether he qualifies for the national team or not, and provided that he will still be a junior pilot when the next World or Continental Championships are held. If he is not a member of the national team, his score will not be considered in the team results.<br><br>The key words here are "and provided that he will still be a junior pilot when the next World or Continental Championships are held. Also, the first sentence states "participate in the next World or Continental Championships in that category" - the category is Junior.<br><br>I don't know where the ambiguity comes in.<br><br><br>On 11/13/17, 10:22 AM, "Don Ramsey" <<a href="mailto:donramsey@gmail.com">donramsey@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br> Derek, according to the jury he can return as an individual if he is over 18 but would not be part of the team. So, could have 5 US entrants but only 4 team members.<br> <br> Don<br> <br> <br> -----Original Message-----<br> From: NSRCA-discussion [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>] On Behalf Of Derek Koopowitz via NSRCA-discussion<br> Sent: Monday, November 13, 2017 10:38 AM<br> To: Jas S; NSRCA List; Bob Kane<br> Cc: MarkAtwood<br> Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] F3A World Result<br> <br> Provided he will be 18 or younger in 2019. Will he?<br> <br> On 11/12/17, 5:50 PM, "NSRCA-discussion on behalf of Jas S via NSRCA-discussion" <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org%20on%20behalf%20of%20nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org on behalf of nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br> <br> He already gets a free pass to Italy for being reigning Jr. Champion (according to the rules)<br> <br> Jas iP<br> <br> > On Nov 12, 2017, at 8:21 PM, Bob Kane via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br> > <br> > And an amazing team effort I must say !!!!!! Looks like Joseph is ready for the 2019 team without the Junior status.<br> > <br> > Bob Kane <a href="mailto:getterflash@yahoo.com">getterflash@yahoo.com</a><br> > <br> > --------------------------------------------<br> > On Sun, 11/12/17, Atwood, Mark via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br> > <br> > Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] F3A World Result<br> > To: "Bill Harden" <<a href="mailto:flyinbill1@bellsouth.net">flyinbill1@bellsouth.net</a>><br> > Cc: "General pattern discussion" <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br> > Date: Sunday, November 12, 2017, 3:19 PM<br> > <br> > <br> > <br> > Onda<br> > CPLR<br> > Shulman<br> > Jesky<br> > Bruckman<br> > Lassi (Finland)<br> > Kaiser<br> > Szczur<br> > Glenn<br> > Trumpp <br> > <br> > <br> > <br> > <br> > <br> > On Nov 12, 2017, at 5:08 PM, Bill Harden <<a href="mailto:flyinbill1@bellsouth.net">flyinbill1@bellsouth.net</a>><br> > wrote:<br> > <br> > <br> > <br> > <br> > <br> > <br> > #yiv2101667059<br> > #yiv2101667059 --<br> > <br> > _filtered #yiv2101667059 {panose-1:2 4 5 3 5 4 6 3 2 4;}<br> > _filtered #yiv2101667059 {font-family:Calibri;panose-1:2 15<br> > 5 2 2 2 4 3 2 4;}<br> > #yiv2101667059 <br> > #yiv2101667059 p.yiv2101667059MsoNormal, #yiv2101667059<br> > li.yiv2101667059MsoNormal, #yiv2101667059<br> > div.yiv2101667059MsoNormal<br> > {margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt;font-size:11.0pt;}<br> > #yiv2101667059 a:link, #yiv2101667059<br> > span.yiv2101667059MsoHyperlink<br> > {color:blue;text-decoration:underline;}<br> > #yiv2101667059 a:visited, #yiv2101667059<br> > span.yiv2101667059MsoHyperlinkFollowed<br> > {color:purple;text-decoration:underline;}<br> > #yiv2101667059 p.yiv2101667059msonormal0, #yiv2101667059<br> > li.yiv2101667059msonormal0, #yiv2101667059<br> > div.yiv2101667059msonormal0<br> > {margin-right:0in;margin-left:0in;font-size:11.0pt;}<br> > #yiv2101667059 span.yiv2101667059apple-style-span<br> > {}<br> > #yiv2101667059 span.yiv2101667059EmailStyle20<br> > {color:windowtext;}<br> > #yiv2101667059 .yiv2101667059MsoChpDefault<br> > {font-size:10.0pt;}<br> > _filtered #yiv2101667059 {margin:1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}<br> > #yiv2101667059 div.yiv2101667059WordSection1<br> > {}<br> > #yiv2101667059 <br> > Would someone please tell<br> > me the final result? 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