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</head><body><p style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Seems to me they were submitted for approval of the membership when we released the proposed sequences and took comments prior to and during the survey.</p><p style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);"><br></p><p style="font-size: 12pt; font-family: helvetica, arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(51, 51, 51);">Scott</p><blockquote type="cite">On October 12, 2017 at 6:09 PM John Gayer via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org> wrote:<br><br><p>Joe,</p><p>The membership referred to is that of the NSRCA and it is an NSRCA vote. There can be no other interpretation or the freeflight community will be voting on our new sequences. The survey could be considered an approval vote with reservations which I hope have been addressed. Hard to tell. I certainly would not consider the current sequence process to be very open.<br></p><p>The rulebook, as I have mentioned before, also limits the sportsman sequence to four years. Unless you want to do another goaround next year, I suggest you rerelease the current sequence along with a statement that the Sportsman sequence was examined and found to be valid for another four year cycle. That should be done as part of your upcoming release.</p><p>John<br></p><p>RULE:</p><p>The Radio Control Aerobatics sequences will be developed periodically by the National Society of Radio Control Aerobatics (NSRCA) Sequence Committee which is appointed by the NSRCA Board of Directors. The NSRCA Board of Directors will supervise the sequence development and will submit the proposed sequences to the membership for approval before they approve all sequences for use in RCA competition. All current sequences can be found at the NSRCA<br> website. The NSRCA will modify the sequences for classes 401, 402 and 403, Indoor R/C Aerobatics Sportsman and Indoor R/C Aerobatics Intermediate at least every four years and the sequence for class 404 will be modified at least every two years, but sequences may be updated more frequently as required. Sequences will be published no later than December for the following year. A description of each maneuver for all sequences can be found on the NSRCA website at: <a class="ox-b3828697e4-moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://nsrca.us/index.php/sequences">http://nsrca.us/index.php/sequences</a>.<br></p><br><div class="ox-b3828697e4-moz-cite-prefix">On 10/12/2017 3:28 PM, Joe Walker via NSRCA-discussion wrote:<br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div style="color: #000; background-color: #fff; font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande,; font-size: 10px;"><div id="ox-b3828697e4-yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507142421047_1292706"><span id="ox-b3828697e4-yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507142421047_1292705">That's an AMA vote Jon, not an NSRCA vote, so we have no control over that process. Do we?</span></div><div id="ox-b3828697e4-yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507142421047_1292707"><br></div><div id="ox-b3828697e4-yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507142421047_1292708">These are the official patterns being submitted as outlined for the NSRCA responsibilities. </div><div class="ox-b3828697e4-qtdSeparateBR"><br> <br></div><div class="ox-b3828697e4-yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"><div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial,; font-size: 10px;"><div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue,; font-size: 16px;"><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: small;"> On Thursday, October 12, 2017 5:24 PM, Jon Lowe <a class="ox-b3828697e4-moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jonlowe@aol.com"><jonlowe@aol.com></a> wrote:<br> </span></div><br> <br><div class="ox-b3828697e4-y_msg_container"><div id="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895"><div><div dir="ltr">Sorry Joe, the AMA rule book trump's the charter. It REQUIRES the membership to vote on them. I've sent you the appropriate language from the AMA rule book at least twice. Until we vote, they cannot be implemented by the board.</div><div dir="ltr">Jon</div><hr style="border: 0; min-height: 1px; color: #999; background-color: #999; width: 100%; margin: 0; padding: 0;"><span style="font-size: 14px; color: #999999;">On Thursday, October 12, 2017 Joe Walker <<span style="color: #0000a0;"><a class="ox-b3828697e4-moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:vellum2@bellsouth.net">vellum2@bellsouth.net</a></span>> wrote:</span><br clear="none"><div class="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895yqt2623103498" id="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895yqt76054"><div id="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895AOLMsgPart_2_30ae05f0-7c01-4ff1-8340-149ecbdeb44e"><div class="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895aolReplacedBody"><div style="color: #000; background-color: #fff; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 10px;"><div id="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507142421047_1178542"><span id="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507142421047_1178541"><span id="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507142421047_1178696" style="font-size: medium;">Good morning guys, the board reviewed everything last night and will publish the final sequences this week. Just so we are all on the same page, the official approval process is listed below (Directly from the charter) and is on the website for everyone to review if you're so inclined. </span></span></div><div id="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507142421047_1178542"><span style="font-size: medium;"><br clear="none"> </span></div><div dir="ltr" id="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507142421047_1178542"><span style="font-size: medium;">The Power </span><span id="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507142421047_1178752" style="font-size: medium;">Points are being produced right now by Jim Hiller (Thanks Jim!)</span></div><div id="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507142421047_1178542"><span style="font-size: medium;"><br clear="none"> </span></div><div id="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507142421047_1178542"><span id="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507142421047_1178609"><span style="font-size: medium;">Thanks!</span></span></div><div id="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507142421047_1178542"><span style="font-size: medium;"><br clear="none"> </span></div><div id="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507142421047_1178542"><span id="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507142421047_1178610"><span id="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507142421047_1178698" style="font-size: medium;">Joe Walker</span></span></div><div id="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507142421047_1178542"><br clear="none"></div><div id="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507142421047_1178542"><br clear="none"></div><div id="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507142421047_1178542"> <br></div><div id="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507142421047_1178599"><div id="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507142421047_1178600"><div id="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507142421047_1178601"><ol start="0" style="list-style-type: none;" id="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507142421047_1178602"><li id="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507142421047_1178603"><div id="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507142421047_1178604"><span id="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507142421047_1178605" style="font-size: 12.000000pt; font-family: 'Arial'; font-weight: bold; background-color: rgb(89.804000%,89.804000%,89.804000%);">Approval Process </span></div><div dir="ltr" id="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507142421047_1178606"><span id="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507142421047_1178607" style="font-size: 10.000000pt; font-family: 'TimesNewRomanPSMT';">Each new sequence, or change to a sequence, shall be submitted to the General Membership and public for their review. The BoD shall approve publication of sequences on the NSRCA website for membership/public review and comment. The committee shall update their proposed sequences/changes, if required, and submit it in final form to the BoD. The BoD shall designate the Committee to prepare any inputs necessary to support the sequence changes. Recommended changes to the maneuver descriptions and judging criteria shall be coordinated with the NSRCA Rules Committee (if necessary). Any changes to the Sequence Development Guide will be made by the Committee Chairperson and submitted to the BoD for approval. Once a final set of sequences is approved by the BoD it shall be published in the K-Factor and posted on the NSRCA website. </span></div></li></ol></div></div></div><div class="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895qtdSeparateBR"><br clear="none"> <br clear="none"></div><div class="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"><div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue,; font-size: 10px;"><div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue,; font-size: 16px;"><div dir="ltr"><span style="font-family: Arial; font-size: small;"> On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 1:40 PM, Jon Lowe via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-<a target="_blank" href="mailto:discussion@lists.nsrca.org" rel="noopener noreferrer">discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"> </span></div><br clear="none"> <br clear="none"><div class="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895y_msg_container"><div id="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895"><div><div>We haven't voted on the sequences yet. Until we do, assuming they pass, the board can't implement them. Anything now is unofficial. At this point, AFAIK, the sequences to vote on haven't been finalized.<br clear="none"> <br clear="none"><div>Jon</div></div><div class="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895yqt7550183457" id="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895yqt59335"><div class="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895gmail_quote">On Oct 10, 2017 9:01 AM, Randy Forbus via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-<a target="_blank" href="mailto:discussion@lists.nsrca.org" rel="noopener noreferrer">discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr" style="font-size: 12pt; color: #000000; font-family: 'calibri';"><div>Are the powerpoint for the new sequences coming out soon.<br clear="none"></div></div></div></blockquote></div><br clear="none"></div></div></div></div><div class="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895yqt7550183457" id="ox-b3828697e4-yiv2344600895yqt37735">_______________________________________________<br clear="none"> NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br clear="none"> <a target="_blank" href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" rel="noopener noreferrer">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br clear="none"> <a target="_blank" href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" rel="noopener noreferrer">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a></div><br clear="none"> <br clear="none"></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><br> <br></div></div></div></div></div><br> <br><pre>_______________________________________________
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