<p dir="ltr">We have not been asked to approve the sequences, nor have we seen what the BoD considers final. We were ONLY asked to provide comments to a prior sequence proposal, which does not connote approval. I know of no way to get membership approval other than a vote.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Jon</p>
</br></br><div class="device_aol_et_org_dt_dd_quote"></div><hr style="border:0;height:1px;color:#999;background-color:#999;width:100%;margin:0 0 9px 0;padding:0;"></hr><span style="font-size:14px; color:#999999;">On Thursday, October 12, 2017 J <<span style="color:#0000A0">vellum2@bellsouth.net</span>> wrote:</span><br></br>
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<div dir="auto" class="aolReplacedBody">This one?<div><br></div><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The Radio Control Aerobatics sequences will be developed periodically by the National Society of Radio Control Aerobatics (NSRCA) Sequence Committee which is appointed by the NSRCA Board of Directors. </span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><b>This is done</b>. </span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The NSRCA Board of Directors will supervise the sequence development and will submit the proposed sequences to the membership for approval before they approve all sequences for use in RCA competition. </span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><b>This is done. It’s the survey, with very specific commentary that has been reviewed, modifications made, and now approved by the BoD. It was submitted to over 3000 people actually. I see no voting requirement here. I look at the process as going above and beyond this requirement by simplifying some of the maneuvers as a result of the survey. </b></span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><br></span></div><div class="gmail_default"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">All current sequences can be found at the NSRCA website. The NSRCA will modify the sequences for classes 401, 402 and 403, Indoor R/C Aerobatics Sportsman and Indoor R/C Aerobatics Intermediate at least every four years and the sequence for class 404 will be modified at least Academy of Model Aeronautics Competition Regulations | Radio Control Aerobatics 17 every two years, but sequences may be updated more frequently as required. Sequences will be published no later than December for the following year. A description of each maneuver for all sequences can be found on the NSRCA website at: <a href="http://nsrca.us/index.php/sequences" target="_blank">http://nsrca.us/index.php/sequences</a>.<br></span></div><div style="-webkit-text-size-adjust: auto;"><br></div></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><b>This appears to align exactly with the process we have now completed. In fact we will now be a month ahead of schedule if we get everything posted by the end of the week. </b></span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><b><br></b></span></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><b>What am I missing?</b></span></div><br><div id="AppleMailSignature">Joe</div><div><br>On Oct 12, 2017, at 5:55 PM, Jon Lowe <<a href="mailto:jonlowe@aol.com" target="_blank">jonlowe@aol.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div><p dir="ltr">No! It is an NSRCA responsibility. It specifically says the NSRCA BOD will submit it to the membership for a vote.. Paragraph 15 of the rule book.</p>
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<br><br><hr style="border:0;height:1px;color:#999;background-color:#999;width:100%;margin:0 0 9px 0;padding:0;"><span style="font-size:14px; color:#999999;">On Thursday, October 12, 2017 Joe Walker <<span style="color:#0000A0"><a href="mailto:vellum2@bellsouth.net" target="_blank">vellum2@bellsouth.net</a></span>> wrote:</span><br><br>
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<div class="aolReplacedBody"><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10px"><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507142421047_1292706"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507142421047_1292705">That's an AMA vote Jon, not an NSRCA vote, so we have no control over that process. Do we?</span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507142421047_1292707"><span><br></span></div><div id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507142421047_1292708"><span>These are the official patterns being submitted as outlined for the NSRCA responsibilities. </span></div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 10px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Thursday, October 12, 2017 5:24 PM, Jon Lowe <<a href="mailto:jonlowe@aol.com" target="_blank">jonlowe@aol.com</a>> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv2344600895"><div><div dir="ltr">Sorry Joe, the AMA rule book trump's the charter. It REQUIRES the membership to vote on them. I've sent you the appropriate language from the AMA rule book at least twice. Until we vote, they cannot be implemented by the board.</div>
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<div dir="ltr" id="yiv2344600895yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507142421047_1178606"><span id="yiv2344600895yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1507142421047_1178607" style="font-size:10.000000pt;font-family:'TimesNewRomanPSMT';">Each new sequence, or change to a sequence, shall be submitted to the General Membership and public for their
review. The BoD shall approve publication of sequences on the NSRCA website for membership/public review
and comment. The committee shall update their proposed sequences/changes, if required, and submit it in final
form to the BoD. The BoD shall designate the Committee to prepare any inputs necessary to support the
sequence changes. Recommended changes to the maneuver descriptions and judging criteria shall be
coordinated with the NSRCA Rules Committee (if necessary). Any changes to the Sequence Development
Guide will be made by the Committee Chairperson and submitted to the BoD for approval. Once a final set of
sequences is approved by the BoD it shall be published in the K-Factor and posted on the NSRCA website. </span></div>
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</div> <div class="yiv2344600895qtdSeparateBR"><br clear="none"><br clear="none"></div><div class="yiv2344600895yahoo_quoted" style="display:block;"> <div style="font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10px;"> <div style="font-family:HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Tuesday, October 10, 2017 1:40 PM, Jon Lowe via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="mailto:discussion@lists.nsrca.org">discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"></font></div> <br clear="none"><br clear="none"> <div class="yiv2344600895y_msg_container"><div id="yiv2344600895"><div><div>We haven't voted on the sequences yet. Until we do, assuming they pass, the board can't implement them. Anything now is unofficial. At this point, AFAIK, the sequences to vote on haven't been finalized.<br clear="none"><br clear="none"><div>Jon</div></div><div class="yiv2344600895yqt7550183457" id="yiv2344600895yqt59335"><div class="yiv2344600895gmail_extra"><br clear="none"><div class="yiv2344600895gmail_quote">On Oct 10, 2017 9:01 AM, Randy Forbus via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-<a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="mailto:discussion@lists.nsrca.org">discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br clear="none"><blockquote class="yiv2344600895quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex;"><div dir="ltr">
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