<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">I joined the NARSA as soon as I started flying pattern and I am proud of the organization and what it has done and is doing for pattern. The organization may not be perfect but no organization is perfect. Someone said pattern would continue without the NSRCA, I don’t think that is true here in D8. The DVP in our district is the focal point of pattern and one of the huge efforts he does is to manage the pattern contest schedule by working with all the CDs, not an easy job and Pat Harris our current DVP is doing a great job as did Rex Lesher before him. Our DVPs work hard to keep the season running by reaching out to the community throughout the season he, does this without treating members any different than non-members.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The fact that NSRCA is “blind" to membership in many of the services it provides shows great leadership, in my opinion. That said I would hope all pattern fliers would see this benefit and join. The organization is small and if you have better ideas how to run the organization then run for office.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Personally I would like to hear from all pattern fliers on the survey.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">
<div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">—Gordon, D8</div></div></div></div></div></div><br class=""></div><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 18, 2017, at 6:30 PM, Ron Hansen via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; font-family: Helvetica; font-size: 14px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Scott,<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">I would assume everyone who is a NSRCA member or who is following this list is a pretty serious pattern flyer.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Why do we want anyone’s opinion that is not an NSRCA member especially on these topics? Now, growing pattern maybe a different story.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Do we want someone chiming in on our affairs when they have never competed?<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Do we want someone’s survey who is on RCU, RCG or just an ordinary AMA member, I think not.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">I say don’t worry about the few who think every RC pilot should have a voice in these matters.<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Scott McHarg [<a href="mailto:scmcharg@gmail.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:scmcharg@gmail.com</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, July 18, 2017 9:22 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Patternpilot One<br class=""><b class="">Cc:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Dave Burton; Ron Hansen; General pattern discussion<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>RE: [NSRCA-discussion] Please make sure your NSRCA profile e-mail address is up to date!<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Some of your points are correct but somehow you're missing the fact that the BoD is reaching out to as many as can be reached. The goal here is to have people sign up on the website, not to be members of the NSRCA, although preferable, but to have a database of emails so that they can be sent the survey. You don't have to be a member to sign up on the site. That's the whole thing. They said they're trying to reach out to all including the forums but yet that's not good enough. I don't get it. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">On Jul 18, 2017 8:12 PM, "Patternpilot One" <<a href="mailto:patternpilot1@hotmail.com" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">patternpilot1@hotmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Scott,<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">I do understand how hard it is to run an organization.. I'm just saying if you are wanting to get a true reading of the pattern pilots you need to talk to them all, not just a select few who are members of a AMA Sig.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">All pattern pilots should have a voice from all classes and districts.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">This is a sport for some and a hobby for others and you should not have to fly a dozen flights a week to stay competitive unless your on the international pattern circuit.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Planes have become to pattern dependant and cost way over the top. How can a father and son come out and try a pattern contest in sportsman competing against a $3,000 composite aircraft. This is a major factor as well as the patterns have become much harder for the average sport flier to jump in and try pattern. I understand each AMA class is a stepping stone for the next and masters is the top before FAI. But maybe adopt the KISS system and patterns. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Some major points I see need help.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">So how do you increase pilots to try pattern and keep them?<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Patterns and aircraft.. planes these days look like pregnant guppies and or sharks with all their fins. Again pattern dependant. If that is what is needed for the few % competing at the international level fine, but not everything needs to trickle down to the average or above-average pilot.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">If patterns did not dictate the planes more kits or ARF's at a reasonable cost might be available.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">In reading all this masters sh!t storm people mentioned patterns had to much consumption, since when do you design a pattern on power consumption? Sounds like your catering to the electric guys.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Maybe time to reel in some of the technology in the lower classes and level out the field and not make it who can throw the most money at it to win. That KISS system again.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Just a quick .02 cents..<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div id="m_7128165592693448127composer_signature" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; color: rgb(54, 79, 103);" class="">Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">-------- Original message --------<br class="">From: Scott McHarg <<a href="mailto:scmcharg@gmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">scmcharg@gmail.com</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Date: 7/18/17 8:40 PM (GMT-05:00)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">To: Patternpilot One <<a href="mailto:patternpilot1@hotmail.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">patternpilot1@hotmail.com</a>>, General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Cc: Dave Burton <<a href="mailto:burtona@atmc.net" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">burtona@atmc.net</a>>, Ron Hansen <<a href="mailto:rcpilot@wowway.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">rcpilot@wowway.com</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Please make sure your NSRCA profile e-mail address is up to date!<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">But, please, enjoy the benefits of others' hard work including this list. Sorry but the amount of complaining how bad the NSRCA is just eats at me. People work really hard to do the right thing and please the majority. No matter how hard you try, someone is going to poo-poo your efforts. They make mistakes just like we all do. At least the effort is being made to get information from the majority vs. the few that can't stand the NSRCA but love to tell everyone on the NSRCA list. How about some support?<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">On Jul 18, 2017 7:30 PM, "Patternpilot One via NSRCA-discussion" <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Dave,<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">+100 well said!<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><o:p class=""> </o:p></div></div><div id="m_7128165592693448127m_-985347158937714299composer_signature" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; color: rgb(54, 79, 103);" class="">Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone<o:p class=""></o:p></span></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><br class=""><br class="">-------- Original message --------<br class="">From: Dave Burton via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Date: 7/18/17 8:29 PM (GMT-05:00)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">To: 'Ron Hansen' <<a href="mailto:rcpilot@wowway.com" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">rcpilot@wowway.com</a>>, 'General pattern discussion' <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Please make sure your NSRCA profile e-mail address is up to date!<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">I've been flying pattern contest for approx 45 years. There were a lot of contest before NSRCA came into being.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Pattern flying doesn't exist because of NSRCA.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>NSRCA-discussion [mailto:<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Ron Hansen via NSRCA-discussion<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, July 18, 2017 8:16 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>'Patternpilot One'; 'General pattern discussion'; 'Cliff Bradford'<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Please make sure your NSRCA profile e-mail address is up to date!</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">If you are not an NSRCA member because you are trying to make a statement about the current state of affairs I understand that; otherwise, if you fly at pattern contest on a regular basis and are not a NSRCA member then shame on you!!</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">You are benefiting from all the hard work of other volunteers. <span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Without the NSRCA pattern contests would not exist.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">That is like getting health insurance without paying for it or expecting the AMA to fight the FAA while not being a member.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class="">Again only NSRCA members should get a survey!!</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125);" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); border-top-width: 1pt; padding: 3pt 0in 0in;" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>NSRCA-discussion [<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class="">On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Patternpilot One via NSRCA-discussion<br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, July 18, 2017 7:52 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Cliff Bradford; General pattern discussion<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Please make sure your NSRCA profile e-mail address is up to date!</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Since when the He!! do you have to belong to NSRCA to fly pattern??? I bet there are many who don't belong to Nsrca or follow the list who fly pattern on a regular basis.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">This is why the membership is crashing.. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div id="m_7128165592693448127m_-985347158937714299composer_signature" class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-size: 10.5pt; color: rgb(54, 79, 103);" class="">Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE smartphone</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><br class=""><br class="">-------- Original message --------<br class="">From: Cliff Bradford via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Date: 7/18/17 7:44 PM (GMT-05:00)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">To: General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>>, John Gayer <<a href="mailto:west.engineering@comcast.net" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">west.engineering@comcast.net</a>><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><br class="">Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Please make sure your NSRCA profile e-mail address is up to date!<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">I think the survey should be directed at NSRCA members, I could care less what the part time Pattern guy thinks. Making it available to those that have a desire to provide input is fine and Peter has said he will do that, Hang in there Peter!!! It's a thankless job but I thank you for all your hard work and passion for the hobbie. <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">On Tue, Jul 18, 2017 at 6:36 PM John Gayer via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="border-style: none none none solid; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1pt; padding: 0in 0in 0in 6pt; margin: 5pt 0in 5pt 4.8pt;" class="" type="cite"><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">We do own the sequences as per the AMA rulebook.<br class="">With a short timeframe it is better to poll the NSRCA membership than to say we must poll the AMA membership. How would you ever determine the AMA members interested in pattern? From the little boxes on the AMA membership application? Good luck.<br class=""><br class="">Also, dropping your membership because you are fed up with this list is BS. You don't even have to be an NSRCA member to join this list.<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class="">John<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p class=""></o:p></p><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">On 7/18/2017 3:06 PM, Joe Lachowski via NSRCA-discussion wrote:<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt;" class="" type="cite"><div id="m_7128165592693448127m_-985347158937714299m_-5372844499695705571divtagdefaultwrapper" class=""><p style="margin-right: 0in; margin-left: 0in; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">The survey is useless unless it is available to all "AMA" members who participate in pattern events. The NSRCA does not own Precision Aerobatics.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></p><div class=""><div class="MsoNormal" align="center" style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; text-align: center;"><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><hr size="3" width="98%" align="center" class=""></span></div><div id="m_7128165592693448127m_-985347158937714299m_-5372844499695705571divRplyFwdMsg" class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><b class=""><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>NSRCA-discussion<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org></a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>on behalf of Peter Vogel via NSRCA-discussion<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org></a><br class=""><b class="">Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, July 18, 2017 2:03 PM<br class=""><b class="">To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>General pattern discussion<br class=""><b class="">Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[NSRCA-discussion] Please make sure your NSRCA profile e-mail address is up to date!</span><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""></span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Login to<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="https://nsrca.us/" target="_blank" id="m_7128165592693448127m_-985347158937714299m_-5372844499695705571LPlnk186545" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://nsrca.us</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>and then go to the "edit profile" link (<a href="https://nsrca.us/index.php/cb-profile-edit" target="_blank" id="m_7128165592693448127m_-985347158937714299m_-5372844499695705571LPlnk439608" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">https://nsrca.us/index.php/cb-profile-edit</a>)<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div id="m_7128165592693448127m_-985347158937714299m_-5372844499695705571LPBorder_GT_15004119251230.9772458108534754" style="margin-bottom: 15pt; display: inline-block; overflow: auto;" class=""><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="1" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0" width="90%" style="width: 441px; background-color: white; border-style: dotted none; border-top-color: rgb(200, 200, 200); border-top-width: 1pt; border-bottom-color: rgb(200, 200, 200); border-bottom-width: 1pt; background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"><tbody class=""><tr class=""><td valign="top" style="border: none; padding: 0in;" class=""><div id="m_7128165592693448127m_-985347158937714299m_-5372844499695705571LPTitle_15004119251170.5530652876336255" class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 15pt 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><a href="https://nsrca.us/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class=""><span style="text-decoration: none;" class="">NSRCA</span></a><o:p class=""></o:p></p></div><div id="m_7128165592693448127m_-985347158937714299m_-5372844499695705571LPMetadata_15004119251200.3627936492739031" class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 15pt 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"><a href="http://nsrca.us/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">nsrca.us</a><o:p class=""></o:p></p></div><div id="m_7128165592693448127m_-985347158937714299m_-5372844499695705571LPDescription_15004119251210.42617195631994275" class=""><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 15pt 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;">The NSRCA is a Special Interest Group for precision aerobatics in the USA.<o:p class=""></o:p></p></div></td></tr></tbody></table></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">We'll be sending the sequence survey to the e-mail addresses registered in your user profiles. Your responses will be anonymous, but we can track who did/did not take the survey, this will help us to understand when we have a statistically meaningful set of responses.</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Peter+<br clear="all" class=""></span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></span><o:p class=""></o:p></div><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Director, Fixed Wing Flight Training</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Santa Clara County Model Aircraft Skypark</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Associate Vice President, Academy of Model Aeronautics District X</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class="">Treasurer, National Society of Radio Control Aerobatics (NSRCA)</span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><span style="font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=""><span id="cid:image001.jpg@01D3000C.EA5FC9B0"><image001.jpg></span></span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;"> <o:p class=""></o:p></p><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">_______________________________________________<o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class="">NSRCA-discussion mailing list<o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class=""><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><o:p class=""></o:p></pre><pre style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 10pt; font-family: 'Courier New';" class=""><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><o:p class=""></o:p></pre></blockquote><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""> <o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">_______________________________________________<br class="">NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br class=""><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a><o:p class=""></o:p></div></blockquote></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">--<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p class=""></o:p></div></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class="">Cliff<o:p class=""></o:p></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif;" class=""><br class=""><br class="">__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of detection engine 15769 (20170718) __________<br class=""><br class="">The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.<br class=""><br class=""><a href="http://www.eset.com/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline;" class="">http://www.eset.com</a><br class=""><br class=""><br class="">__________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of detection engine 15769 (20170718) __________<br class=""><br class="">The message was checked by ESET Smart Security.<br class=""><br class=""><a href="http://www.eset.com/" target="_blank" style="color: purple; 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