<html><head></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; ">Didn't read my question. I'm talking who has moved up through the classes and is now flying F3A P and F. Flying F3A locally occasionally and then Masters at the Nats doesn't count. Or wanting to doesn't count. <div><br></div><div>I haven't heard about Chris, is he now flying F3A at the Nats?</div><div><br></div><div>Tony Frackowiak</div><div><br><div><div>On Jul 13, 2017, at 7:03 PM, Joe Walker wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class="">Chris Odom, Blake Hilson (Advanced now, but wants to jump straight to FAI), James Hannah currently in advanced, ready for Masters.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Jul 13, 2017, at 9:52 PM, Frackowiak Tony via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" class="">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; " class="">Good one. So we have Joseph, Matt Kimbro, maybe Brett, and Anthony Romano. Who else?<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Tony Frackowiak</div><div class=""><br class=""><div class=""><div class="">On Jul 13, 2017, at 6:31 PM, Vogel, Peter wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite" class="">
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<div class="">Well, not in the last 15 years. I started in Novice in 1989, Sportsman (Intermediate) in 91, Advanced 94, Masters ’97, and FAI in 2000. Didn’t fly F until they introduce the semi-finals at the Nats maybe in ’05? Didn’t fly F without panicking until
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<div class="">And we JUST lost a very active (came to 9-10 contests a year) Intermediate pilot because the box is too much for him. Flying Sportsman was no good because he was usually the only one, and he wanted competition rather than a participation award.
I’ve said for many years the we lost a lot of non-traveling, club participants when we went to turn-around. But that ship has sailed and we won’t realistically be going back. </div>
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consistently finished #1-#3, they would be shamed. Every year that proposal would set people's hair on fire. Why have rules that discourage participation? On another matter, Turnaround was the death of the casual competitor. It takes a lot of practice to
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