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Joe,<br>
The Sequence committee Chairman and members used to be posted on the
website but I can't find it now.<br>
Would it be possible to list the full committee somewhere? <br>
Thanks<br>
John<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 7/8/2017 7:00 AM, J via
NSRCA-discussion wrote:<br>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature"><span style="background-color:
rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Good morning all,</span></div>
<div id="AppleMailSignature"><span style="background-color:
rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The make up and compliance of the
committee has been corrected. The Charter outlined a
committee make up that Should be 6 plus the chair and Shall
contain a BoD member. Mark Barnett (BoD member) and Don
Ramsey (Judges perspective) have both been added to the
committee. The submittal was indeed 1 month late. Part of
the requirements of the BOD to the committee was to provide
a schedule to finish the process as close to the original
schedule as possible. They have also done that. </span></div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature"><span style="background-color:
rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">The board's role is to ensure
compliance with the guidelines and the charter. The
commenting phase is for the membership to give specific
feedback (which many have!) and for that feedback to
influence the sequence committee (which it is). </span></div>
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<div id="AppleMailSignature"><span style="background-color:
rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">My suggestion is that folks go out
and try flying through it a few times and let that
experience inform the comments even more. </span></div>
<br>
Joe Walker,</div>
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On Jul 7, 2017, at 10:18 PM, Frackowiak Tony via
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<div><base href="x-msg://1057/">I agree with Joe L and it is
something I recommended earlier to Joe W. Since the Committee
was not formed correctly regarding it's composition everything
they have done should be suspect. And it seems they have had
very little regard for the Guide, at least in developing a
Masters proposal.
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<div>Tony Frackowiak</div>
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<div>On Jul 7, 2017, at 7:07 PM, Joe Lachowski via
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<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; ">My
opinion is start fresh with people who have had
experience designing sequences for the Masters
Sequence. Intermediate and Advanced I can
barely tolerate. If there is no drastic change to
follow the guide and use at least 80% of the
maneuvers from the existing guide catalog for
Masters, this pattern flyer is moving onto
sailplanes. There should be no more than a few new
maneuvers introduced to the existing catalog of
maneuvers. As it stands, no matter what you do to
the proposed sequence it is way more difficult
than what we do now, is a battery destroyer, just
plain sucks, will crash a few planes and is going
to be intimidating to the guy who moves up from
Advanced.</div>
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<div style="margin-top: 0px; margin-bottom: 0px; ">By
the way when integrated rollers were introduced by
those at the helm, they said we will only us a
simple loop with an integrated roller across the
top. Obviously that didn't happen.<br>
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size="5">Hey guys! Be sure to go to the
main site now to take a look at the
proposed sequences for Intermediate,
Advanced and Masters. Remember that we
are in the commenting stage and all
feedback is welcome. My only request is
that you be specific in your thoughts so
the feedback can be productive in making
the sequences the best they can be. I
really like them personally and look
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<div
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style="font-size: 11pt; ">NSRCA
had a meeting at the end
of the pilots meeting at
last year’s NATS and all
pilots that were paying
attention knew about it.
About 5 of the contestants
stayed for that meeting. </span></div>
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NSRCA Leadership / New
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">Joe,<br clear="none">
Thanks for the reply.<br
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One suggestion I have is to
reinstitute the physical
board meeting at the Nats or
perhaps a meeting with beer
and whatever. It's a great
opportunity to meet your
fellow board members and
discuss the future of
pattern. Just keep it
informal and fun. The idea
is more to form connections
then to discuss normal board
business.<br clear="none">
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Concerning the list, set up
a local folder for the list
and use a filter to dump
into it. Then you have no
additional inbox clutter and
its easy to tell when there
is a hot topic.<br
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not certain that the
entirety of the
board subscribes to
the list, but I'm
here now and it is a
voluntary discussion
list. It's also not
the only way to
communicate, so if
there is a hot topic
you would like to
see immediate action
on, please send an
email to the person
you are desiring to
connect with. Or
better yet, a phone
call. I can tell
you now from
experience that it
sure does fill up
your inbox in a
hurry! My
preference would be
to change to a
platform that is a
bit more in line
with the rest of the
world, but I'm
certain that will
stir up another
thread, thus
contributing more to
the inbox influx, so
I'll save that for
another time ;-). I
can also say
definitively that
engaging every post
is an<span
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think there have
been many great
suggestions on a
variety of topics.
I'm certainly on
board with several
great ideas and have
been, and will
continue to be an
advocate for
reasonable
discussion with
suggestions to make
what we do more fun
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I can only ask
why the board
is not
subscribed to
this list?<br
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That is how
you keep a
finger on the
pulse of the
membership (or
at least the
vocal parts of
it). Not the
only way, of
course.<br
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There is no
requirement to
respond or
take action on
anything the
board or
committee
members read
here but the
threads exist
to be pursued
and ideas
presented that
may strike a
chord.<br
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Not everything
here has been
negative. Many
positive
suggestions
have been
made.<span
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I'm sure the
board could
issue a waiver
to the two
year rule for
Masters if
they want to.
Or just change
one maneuver,
or two. I have
candidates
:=) Probably
need to do
that for
Sportsman as
well.<br
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like to blame
auto-correct
but, I don't
think that'll
work in this
case. Sorry
people.</span></div>
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great comments
all around but
if it's not
being
recognized or
seen by those
that can
change it,
what's the
point?"</span></div>
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U.A.S.
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Certified
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107</span></div>
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Tue, Jun 20,
2017 at 7:54
AM, Scott
McHarg <<a
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wrote:</span></div>
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one thing for
us to debate a
proposed
sequence that
hasn't even
been approved
by the board
for public
comment that
got out by
accident and
quite another
thing to break
the AMA Rules
stipulating
that we do
change Masters
at least once
every 2
years. I'm
all in favor
of this
discussion but
wouldn't it
make sense
that we make
sure our board
was picking up
what we're
putting down?
Truly, great
comments all
around but if
it's being
ignored by
those that can
change it,
what's the
point?</span></div>
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Tue, Jun 20,
2017 at 12:35
AM, Frackowiak
Tony via
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<<a
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Sequence
Committee and
the entire
Sequence
Development
Guide was
established
for the NSRCA
to create the
schedules used
in the AMA
Pattern event.
I believe the
establishment
of that
process was
key in getting
the rules
changed to
where the
NSRCA had
control of the
patterns, not
the AMA R/C
Aerobatics
Contest Board.
Are we
supposed to
just forget
all that
because the
ball was
dropped this
cycle? I think
the better
option since
we can no
longer follow
the
established
schedule is to
not change the
patterns for
this cycle.
What's the
worst that
could happen?
Everyone gets
better at
flying them
and newcomers
to a class get
a break?<br
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I don't
understand
your idea of
forming
another
committee.
Don't we
already have a
Sequence
Committee and
a Rules
Committee?
Seems like
they are there
to do what you
are talking
about. Of
course it also
seems like not
much was done
about
submitting
rules
proposals from
the NSRCA this
cycle. But
maybe I am not
aware of why
that happened.<br
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All in favor
of eliminating
the weight
rule and
allowing 12S.
But that
really is
another story.<br
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Tony
Frackowiak</span></div>
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On Jun 19,
2017, at 9:31
PM, John Gayer
via
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> I find it
interesting
that when we
discuss using
sequences
developed and
used
internationally
there is
substantial
resistance and
a lot of not
invented here,
loss of
control, etc.
We can
certainly
overcome the
loss of
control by
keeping a
modification
capability
when we
encounter
something
undesirable in
a sequence we
want to use
Not invented
here can save
us a lot of
work,<br
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> On the
other hand,
when we
talking about
rewriting
rules for
using 12S
batteries or
eliminating/reducing
weight
restrictions
for AMA
classes, there
is a hue and
cry that we
have to stay
in lockstep
with FAI or
the sky will
fall.<br
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> I don't
understand
either
position. We
should take
advantage of
work done
around the
world but not
be bound to
it. If we can
build a better
mousetrap for
less money,
that's great.
If we can't,
then take
advantage of
published and
available work
wherever it
comes from.
P19 is not
terribly
exciting but
it is easier
than either
the current or
the new
Masters
sequence.<br
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> Keeping
that in mind,
I suggest we
accept P19 as
the Masters
schedule for
next year only
on a trial
basis.<br
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> In the
meantime, a
committee
should be
formed to
formulate a
plan for
future
sequences.
The three
sequence
rotation makes
a lot of sense
to me for
Sportsman and
Intermediate.
Advanced could
go that way
too but
probably
should adapt
to whatever
longterm plan
is adopted for
Masters. I
would suggest
having forms
available at
contest to
survey
contestants
throughout the
year about
their
sequences.<br
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> At the
end of the
year, the
committee
would publish
recommendations for how to generate sequences for all classes. A
recommendation
I could make
right now is
that the board
ensures the
committee
adheres to the
guidelines and
charter. The
committee
could make
changes to the
documents but
would need
board approval
for those
changes prior
to
implementation
or ask for a
waiver.<br
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