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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Randy,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>You are absolutely right, my mistake. I should have looked closer. Sorry for any confusion.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Verne Koester<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Randy Forbus [mailto:Rforbus@hotmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 08, 2017 12:48 PM<br><b>To:</b> Verne Koester; General pattern discussion<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Proposed Advanced<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div id=divtagdefaultwrapper><p><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>Were is the negative snap, the avalanche can be positive or negative <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center'><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=3 width="98%" align=center></span></div><div id="x_divRplyFwdMsg"><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion-bounces@lists.nsrca.org</a>> on behalf of Verne Koester via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, July 8, 2017 4:44 PM<br><b>To:</b> NSRCA<br><b>Subject:</b> [NSRCA-discussion] Proposed Advanced</span><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'>There hasn't been much said about the proposed Advanced schedule. It appears to me to be an improvement and more appropriate skill level schedule than the current one with one exception.<br>We rarely hear from existing Intermediate pilots on Advanced schedule proposals. I suspect that's mostly because they have no experience yet in the skills they'll have to gain once they move up. Those of us who have taken that step need to consider what they're facing. <br>So if I'm an Intermediate pilot moving up to Advanced, I'm going to have to learn, having never done them before, the slow roll, 4-point roll, snap, and spin. I'd argue that this is the single hardest transition in pattern. <br>Now we're going to throw a negative snap in for good measure?????<br>COME ON, MAN!!!!<br><br>Verne Koester<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<br>_______________________________________________<br>NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" id=LPlnk655822>http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a> <o:p></o:p></span></p><div style='margin-bottom:15.0pt;display:inline-block;overflow:auto' id="LPBorder_GT_14995324610150.6532918984929399"><table class=MsoNormalTable border=1 cellspacing=0 cellpadding=0 width="90%" style='width:90.0%;background:white;border-top:dotted #C8C8C8 1.0pt;border-left:none;border-bottom:dotted #C8C8C8 1.0pt;border-right:none'><tr><td valign=top style='border:none;padding:0in 0in 0in 0in'><div id="LPTitle_14995324610060.5104271339491733"><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:15.0pt;mso-line-height-alt:15.75pt'><span style='font-size:16.0pt;font-family:"Segoe UI Light","sans-serif";color:#0078D7'><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank"><span style='text-decoration:none'>NSRCA-discussion Info Page</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div style='margin-top:7.5pt;margin-bottom:12.0pt' id="LPMetadata_14995324610090.3373745892578508"><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:15.0pt;line-height:10.5pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";color:#666666'>lists.nsrca.org<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div id="LPDescription_14995324610120.7732736296388956"><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-top:15.0pt;line-height:15.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI","sans-serif";color:#666666'>If you are interested in Pattern Precision Aerobatics, you may join this list. This list is not restricted to members of NSRCA. We hope you would eventually choose to ...<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></td></tr></table></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>