<div dir="auto">Wait....what??? I'm right??? :)</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Jun 20, 2017 5:40 PM, "John Gayer via NSRCA-discussion" <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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You're right. You didn't. I'm sorry.<br>
I was trying to make a general comment. There have been negative
comments but also good suggestions promoting a ton of different
viewpoints.<br>
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:georgia,serif;color:#0000ff">I certainly
didn't say anything about negative comments. In fact, I
believe I said that there were some great ideas. That's why I
wanted to make sure our leadership heard the voices.</div>
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<div dir="auto">I know that Anthony and Joe, at least, are
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<div> Scott,<br>
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I can only ask why the board is not subscribed to
this list?<br>
That is how you keep a finger on the pulse of the
membership (or at least the vocal parts of it). Not
the only way, of course.<br>
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There is no requirement to respond or take action on
anything the board or committee members read here
but the threads exist to be pursued and ideas
presented that may strike a chord.<br>
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Not everything here has been negative. Many positive
suggestions have been made. <br>
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I'm sure the board could issue a waiver to the two
year rule for Masters if they want to. Or just
change one maneuver, or two. I have candidates. :=)
Probably need to do that for Sportsman as well.<br>
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John<br>
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<div style="font-family:'georgia',serif;color:#0000ff">Sorry,
I would like to rephrase my last sentence.
I'd like to blame auto-correct but, I don't
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<div style="font-family:'georgia',serif;color:#0000ff">"Truly,
great comments all around but if it's not
being recognized or seen by those that can
change it, what's the point?"</div>
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<div style="font-family:'georgia',serif;color:#0000ff">It's
one thing for us to debate a proposed
sequence that hasn't even been approved
by the board for public comment that got
out by accident and quite another thing
to break the AMA Rules stipulating that
we do change Masters at least once every
2 years. I'm all in favor of this
discussion but wouldn't it make sense
that we make sure our board was picking
up what we're putting down? Truly,
great comments all around but if it's
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Sequence Committee and the entire
Sequence Development Guide was
established for the NSRCA to
create the schedules used in the
AMA Pattern event. I believe the
establishment of that process was
key in getting the rules changed
to where the NSRCA had control of
the patterns, not the AMA R/C
Aerobatics Contest Board. Are we
supposed to just forget all that
because the ball was dropped this
cycle? I think the better option
since we can no longer follow the
established schedule is to not
change the patterns for this
cycle. What's the worst that could
happen? Everyone gets better at
flying them and newcomers to a
class get a break?<br>
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I don't understand your idea of
forming another committee. Don't
we already have a Sequence
Committee and a Rules Committee?
Seems like they are there to do
what you are talking about. Of
course it also seems like not much
was done about submitting rules
proposals from the NSRCA this
cycle. But maybe I am not aware of
why that happened.<br>
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All in favor of eliminating the
weight rule and allowing 12S. But
that really is another story.<br>
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Tony Frackowiak<br>
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> I find it interesting
that when we discuss using
sequences developed and used
internationally there is
substantial resistance and a
lot of not invented here, loss
of control, etc. We can
certainly overcome the loss of
control by keeping a
modification capability when
we encounter something
undesirable in a sequence we
want to use. Not invented here
can save us a lot of work,<br>
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> On the other hand, when
we talking about rewriting
rules for using 12S batteries
or eliminating/reducing weight
restrictions for AMA classes,
there is a hue and cry that we
have to stay in lockstep with
FAI or the sky will fall.<br>
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> I don't understand either
position. We should take
advantage of work done around
the world but not be bound to
it. If we can build a better
mousetrap for less money,
that's great. If we can't,
then take advantage of
published and available work
wherever it comes from. P19 is
not terribly exciting but it
is easier than either the
current or the new Masters
sequence.<br>
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> Keeping that in mind, I
suggest we accept P19 as the
Masters schedule for next year
only on a trial basis.<br>
> In the meantime, a
committee should be formed to
formulate a plan for future
sequences. The three sequence
rotation makes a lot of sense
to me for Sportsman and
Intermediate. Advanced could
go that way too but probably
should adapt to whatever
longterm plan is adopted for
Masters. I would suggest
having forms available at
contest to survey contestants
throughout the year about
their sequences.<br>
> At the end of the year,
the committee would publish
recommendations for how to
generate sequences for all
classes. A recommendation I
could make right now is that
the board ensures the
committee adheres to the
guidelines and charter. The
committee could make changes
to the documents but would
need board approval for those
changes prior to
implementation or ask for a
waiver.<br>
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