<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>DaveL </div><div><br></div><div>I suspect what it really boils down to is if i ( the general pattern flyer) dont make the finals i dont want to judge finals .. never mind the fact that the guys that made the finals worked their butts off putting in the practice ( some may jus have it natural and not need to practice) .. Based on this Nats and the direction pattern seems to be taking if you cut down my finals " masters " so we can have so called quality judging " its a utopian pipe dream " i certainly would not want to sit in a chair and wait around for 4 rounds of FAI finals .. No offense to the FAI guys im jus sayen....... </div><div>Making the finals is a big deal for me...last year it was like i reached the mountain top .. I finished 8th im sooooo cool with that .. Now the mountain top is a mole hill why put in the effort and commitment .. I may not fly well enough ever again to make the finals but there is the hope of reaching it and getting that new contest 4 rounds of the best that showed .. Utopian pipe dream says screw u aint gonna happen.. </div><div>as ive stated before i paid my dues so to speak and hung around for the guys that out flew me so they could get their 4 rounds in ...</div><div> </div><div>So for me its not worth the effort anymore..</div><div><br></div><div>I have one proteus left for sale after the nats tentatively sold the other bout 2hrs ago .. </div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Gary Courtney<br><br><div>Sent from my iPhone</div></div><div><br>On Jun 20, 2017, at 4:50 PM, DaveL322 via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"><div>Collectively (from multiple contributors to this list), concerns have been expressed about - </div><div>-the limited audience to which the survey was sent</div><div>-the limited time frame for response and proximity to the NATs </div><div>-the precedence potentially set by the survey results and possible actions taken by the BOD</div><div>-the validity of the survey result when the question posed was accompanied by a substantial "sales pitch" </div><div><br></div><div>I would like to know what the BOD is planning to use as criteria to evaluate the results of the survey? </div><div><br></div><div>Would the BOD advocate/support/complete actions likely to disenfranchise 20-25% (as reported below) of the respondents and potentially cut the attendance in the Masters class at the NATs (and possibly local contests) by 25%?</div><div><br></div><div id="composer_signature"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757">Regards,</div><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757"><br></div><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757">Dave</div><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757"><br></div><div style="font-size:85%;color:#575757">Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note5.</div></div><div><br></div><div style="font-size:100%;color:#000000"><!-- originalMessage --><div>-------- Original message --------</div><div>From: Joe Walker via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> </div><div>Date: 6/20/17 2:00 PM (GMT-05:00) </div><div>To: Frackowiak Tony <<a href="mailto:frackowiak@sbcglobal.net">frackowiak@sbcglobal.net</a>>, Anthony Romano <<a href="mailto:anthonyr105@hotmail.com">anthonyr105@hotmail.com</a>>, General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>>, General pattern discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> </div><div>Subject: Re: [NSRCA-discussion] Nats registration </div><div><br></div></div><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif;font-size:10px"><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497897629933_188846"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497897629933_188845">Tony,</span></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497897629933_188846"><span id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497897629933_188849">Of the registered pilots that have responded, ~80% agree with the proposed format. Of the total amount of folks that have responded whether or not they are registered for Masters this year, the percentage shifts to ~75% agree of the proposed format. I suggested to the board that we give everyone at least a week to respond, which I think wraps up on Thursday of this </span>week.</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497897629933_188846"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497897629933_188846">If there are folks that received the survey and would still like to have their thoughts heard, now would be a good time (by responding to the email with the survey attached of course, and not another discussion thread here or elsewhere).</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497897629933_188846"><br></div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497897629933_188846">Best,</div><div dir="ltr" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1497897629933_188846">Joe Walker</div> <div class="qtdSeparateBR"><br><br></div><div class="yahoo_quoted" style="display: block;"> <div style="font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 10px;"> <div style="font-family: HelveticaNeue, Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, Lucida Grande, sans-serif; font-size: 16px;"> <div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> On Tuesday, June 20, 2017 1:54 PM, Frackowiak Tony via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>> wrote:<br></font></div> <br><br> <div class="y_msg_container"><div id="yiv2365536418"><base><div>Has a decision been made regarding the Masters format?<div><br clear="none"></div><div>Tony Frackowiak</div><div><br clear="none"><div><div class="yiv2365536418yqt4489369885" id="yiv2365536418yqtfd68435"><div>On Jun 20, 2017, at 10:39 AM, Anthony Romano via NSRCA-discussion wrote:</div><br clear="none" class="yiv2365536418Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><span class="yiv2365536418Apple-style-span" style="border-collapse:separate;font-family:Helvetica;font-style:normal;font-variant:normal;font-weight:normal;letter-spacing:normal;line-height:normal;orphans:2;text-indent:0px;text-transform:none;white-space:normal;widows:2;word-spacing:0px;font-size:medium;"></span><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr" id="yiv2365536418divtagdefaultwrapper" style="font-size:12pt;color:rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;"><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;"><i style="font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif, serif, EmojiFont;font-size:16px;">Love it or hate it Nats entry fee increases on 6/25/17 Get your entries in now since you know it won't be boring!</i><br clear="none"></div></div>_______________________________________________<br clear="none">NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" target="_blank" href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br clear="none"><a rel="nofollow" shape="rect" target="_blank" href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a></div></blockquote></div></div><div class="yiv2365536418yqt4489369885" id="yiv2365536418yqtfd86811"><br clear="none"></div></div></div></div><div class="yqt4489369885" id="yqtfd96758">_______________________________________________<br clear="none">NSRCA-discussion mailing list<br clear="none"><a shape="rect" ymailto="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a><br clear="none"><a shape="rect" href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion" target="_blank">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a></div><br><br></div> </div> </div> </div></div></div></blockquote><blockquote type="cite"><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>NSRCA-discussion mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">NSRCA-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a></span><br><span><a href="http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion">http://lists.nsrca.org/mailman/listinfo/nsrca-discussion</a></span></div></blockquote></body></html>