<div><div>There isn't an Imac contest within 400 miles anymore, four years ago there were 6.</div><div><br/></div><div>Time, money, commitment and the draw of more adrenalin and less precision is the future.</div><div><br/></div><div><br/></div><div><br/></div><div><font style="color:#333333"><i>Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Droid</i></font></div></div><div class="elided-text">On Jun 20, 2017 2:26 PM, Frackowiak Tony via NSRCA-discussion <nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org> wrote:<br type='attribution'><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word">We can only dream, can't we.<div><br /></div><div>Tony Frackowiak</div><div><br /><div><div>On Jun 20, 2017, at 11:29 AM, Curt Oberg wrote:</div><br /><blockquote>
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<div><p><font size="3" face="Comic Sans MS"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'comic sans ms'">If we're not careful, perhaps AMA pattern
will evolve back into Curare's with retracts and a screaming piped .61 glow
powered engine up front with a single maneuver each pass. Who knows?</span></font></p><p><font size="3" face="Comic Sans MS"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'comic sans ms'">Curt Oberg</span></font></p><p><font size="3" face="Comic Sans MS"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'comic sans ms'"> </span></font></p>
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">On Behalf Of </span></b>Frackowiak Tony
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Tuesday, June 20, 2017 1:20
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> Joe Walker; General pattern discussion<br />
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
LONG conversation with Joe Walker on NATs,sequence proposals, and other NSRCA
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</div><p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt"> </span></font></p><p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">OK, hears another "years ago" story. Years ago when you
pulled out a pattern plane at the local club field, it was the center of
attention. It was exciting to see and to watch fly. But over those years we
have slowly legislated pattern in to organized boredom. Our planes to us are
marvels of technology but to the average guy they are dull. We have to be so
quiet and our box requirements make us fly too far away. Like watching paint
dry if you're not in to it. Heck, at a pattern contest just look and see how
many are watching the flights. It pretty much comes down to just the judges.</span></font></p>
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<div><p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">In IMAC the planes are exciting. Somewhat scale, and everybody likes
that. Really big, so take it to the local field and you get attention. They are
flown closer for the most part so that's cool. And they make some noise! Again,
cool! I fly some times at Bear Mountain and
they hold one of the biggest IMAC meets in this area. The majority of the
flying on a weekend is large, IMAC type models. But you rarely see anyone
practicing IMAC. They are all out flying their IMAC models 3D. Very little
actual pattern practice. They do that the weekend before a contest. So large,
loud, scale 3D flying is exciting to the club members. If they are thinking
about doing any kind of competition that is where 90% will go, to IMAC.</span></font></p>
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<div><p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">There also was a time that pattern was a lot more blue collar then it
is now. The planes were not that much more expensive then a good sport model.
Those days are long gone, and so are the majority of the blue collars. With the
expense of the equipment plus the expense of attending weekend contests, it is
out of their reach. And if you're a white collar guy who can afford it, IMAC
looks like a lot more satisfying then pattern. Plus at the local club field you
can get a lot more attention. Very ego satisfying.</span></font></p>
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<div><p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">Just my opinion.</span></font></p>
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<div><p><font size="3" face="Times New Roman"><span style="font-size:12pt">On Jun 20, 2017, at 10:21 AM, Joe Walker via NSRCA-discussion wrote:</span></font></p>
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<div><p style="background:white"><font size="3" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'helvetica';color:black">In
my opinion, you've hit the nail on the head. I would agree that it
is not the difficulty level that affects participation for most people, nor is
it cost. It's really the return on investment. If you are enjoying
the experience, you are willing to make choices that take away time and money
from other activities to dedicate to this activity. Proof in the putting
is IMAC, for me locally. They regularly have contests that are 30+
people, more of them, all in the southeast, their planes cost 2-3x (not to
mention the rigs to haul them around) AND their sequences are much more
challenging at the lower class levels. IE, they have rollers in
intermediate. I realize that IMAC isn't popular in other parts of the
country, but might that be because those other parts of the country don't have
the concentration of pilots to make it fun? </span></font><font size="1" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:6pt;font-family:'helvetica';color:black"></span></font></p>
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<div><p style="background:white"><font size="3" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:12pt;font-family:'helvetica';color:black">Fodder
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<div><p style="background:white"><font size="2" color="black" face="Arial"><span style="font-size:10pt;font-family:'arial';color:black">On
Tuesday, June 20, 2017 11:05 AM, rixsweeney--- via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>>
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<div><p style="background:white"><font size="2" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:'helvetica';color:black">My
first NATS experience was when all events occurred, glad I got to experience
it. My next NATS experience was when it was just a Pattern NATS. Seemed a bit
dull in comparison. I really missed it. </span></font></p>
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<div><p style="background:white"><b><font size="2" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:'helvetica';color:black;font-weight:bold">From: </span></font></b><font size="2" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:'helvetica';color:black"><a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" shape="rect">John Gayer via
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<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent: </span></b>Monday, June 19, 2017 11:48
PM<br />
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To: </span></b><a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" shape="rect">Ronald Van Putte via
NSRCA-discussion</a><br />
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject: </span></b>Re: [NSRCA-discussion]
LONG conversation with Joe Walker on NATs,sequence proposals, and other NSRCA
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expect it goes back to when all the events were happening at once, in one town
or base, at multiple sites. Then you would need a CD to have overall authority
to resolve conflicts over all the events and their EDs. Those were the days
when you could <i><span style="font-style:italic">feel</span></i> the dynajets
firing up over at the controlline speed circles and you might lose electrical
power because a combat flyaway trailed its lines over a power line. There was
no time for practice, too much to see. All of modelings best, in one place, at
one time. <br />
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<div><p style="background:white"><font size="2" color="black" face="Helvetica"><span style="font-size:9.5pt;font-family:'helvetica';color:black">On
6/18/2017 10:09 PM, Ronald Van Putte via NSRCA-discussion wrote:</span></font></p>
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don’t know when ED was first used by AMA to designate an event director, but I
was the R/C Aerobatics event director for the 1996 and 1997 Nats in Muncie, so it originated
before 1996. </span></font></p>
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Jun 18, 2017, at 4:52 PM, Larry Diamond via NSRCA-discussion <<a href="mailto:nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org" shape="rect">nsrca-discussion@lists.nsrca.org</a>>
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